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    Player Brian_'s Avatar
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    Graylle Celestia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    So we have our PLD solo tank it and we solo heal it. Our SCH just DPSes and lets selene do the support healing.

    I parse for about 1150 on a dummy with no food, no pots, no party buff.

    I infuriate shortly before the pull and pop internal release shortly after. The reasoning for this that the double fausts have a ~60 second timer on them so if you infuriate and IR at the times I do, you will have both ready for when Hummel lands.

    I also try to prime a maim or eye for when Hummel lands. That way, you can entire your triple FC in sync with BL and TA. From there it's just a matter of basic WAR DPS.
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    Nel Synestra
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_ View Post
    That way, you can entire your triple FC in sync with BL and TA.
    Sorry for slight offtopic but seeing you are rolling with NiN i must ask how much easier Shadewalker makes tanking when in DPS stance? Mainly asking as we lost one of our DPS before we could even enter savage so recruiting a NiN could be a option due Shadewalker and TA(we have awesome DRG so BL is covered).
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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_ View Post
    So we have our PLD solo tank it and we solo heal it.
    I'm curious what kind of numbers your PLD is doing by main tanking. We have the WAR pull Hummel with regular Unchained Berserk into Deliverance for hate lead, and swap mid way when CDs run low. Party also kills Faust on the WAR first, so I can pull in, and never drop, Sword Oath and avoid losing a GCD. I figured that was the best way to maintain high hate lead and lose as little GCDs as possible while maintaining max damage from both tanks. The last Faust kill, we had WAR around 896 and me PLD about 995, both of us being around i216 (sephi weapons).
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    Last edited by Kitfox; 03-11-2016 at 10:11 PM. Reason: Rechecked numbers.

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    Sarcatica Lin
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    Tonberry
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    I'm curious what kind of numbers your PLD is doing by main tanking. We have the WAR pull Hummel with regular Unchained Berserk into Deliverance for hate lead, and swap mid way when CDs run low. Party also kills Faust on the WAR first, so I can pull in, and never drop, Sword Oath and avoid losing a GCD. I figured that was the best way to maintain high hate lead and lose as little GCDs as possible while maintaining max damage from both tanks. The last Faust kill, we had WAR around 896 and me PLD about 995, both of us being around i216 (sephi weapons).
    Did over 1k while MT-ing, my faust add is always killed first too. You can tank in sword oath at the start without having shadewalker and aggro ripped.
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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcatica View Post
    You can tank in sword oath at the start without having shadewalker and aggro ripped.
    I was trying this out on a dummy with some friends, but I just quite frankly don't see how it's possible. Do Shield Swipe procs really make such a difference? Because I was barely able to keep up with the DPS, losing hate several times, even when totally dropping RA and just using RoH while trying to get GB in. With Shadewalker it's doable but without? Just seems very inefficient compared to WAR pulling in tank stance for hate lead.

    For Fausts specifically it might be possible if DPS spread their damage on both targets, but in general Sword pulling seems very impractical.
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    I was trying this out on a dummy with some friends, but I just quite frankly don't see how it's possible. Do Shield Swipe procs really make such a difference? Because I was barely able to keep up with the DPS, losing hate several times, even when totally dropping RA and just using RoH while trying to get GB in. With Shadewalker it's doable but without? Just seems very inefficient compared to WAR pulling in tank stance for hate lead.

    For Fausts specifically it might be possible if DPS spread their damage on both targets, but in general Sword pulling seems very impractical.
    You can check my log and see if there is any difference at all. The DPS were creeping up real quick but as long as you drop RA for RoH, there shouldn't be a problem provided if you don't save FoF for Hummelfaust specifically.
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