"There are no seasonal rewards for party rankings."

[Renault]

This is really absurd. I can't imagine this sticking into Season 1, they'll HAVE to change it, right? How can you not reward organized parties? That's what team-based PVP is literally all about!

[Ultimatecalibur]

I know people will likely accuse me of "White Knighting" again, but what I'm doing is not that. What I am doing is closer to Devil's Advocating.

This is really absurd. I can't imagine this sticking into Season 1, they'll HAVE to change it, right? How can you not reward organized parties? That's what team-based PVP is literally all about!

Yes, it will stick into Season 1, which begins in 3 weeks with 3.25. Season 2, which will begin around 3.35, has a good possibility of having rewards for Ranked Premades.

[Renault]

I know people will likely accuse me of "White Knighting" again, but what I'm doing is not that. What I am doing is closer to Devil's Advocating.



Yes, it will stick into Season 1, which begins in 3 weeks with 3.25. Season 2, which will begin around 3.35, has a good possibility of having rewards for Ranked Premades.

How can you be certain? Do you work for SE? To delay premade rewards an entire season makes absolutely no sense. Why should people wait around for that? The purpose of this preseason is to gather data and feedback so changes can be made when Season 1 starts. If we as a playerbase don't speak up, then it won't change. But to sit here and accept it? That's bullshit. It's like have savage raids but the loot only drops from DF, not from going in with your premade party. Like, what's the point?

[Serilda]

If you think they might change for season two then it's all the more important that we speak up now so they know people are unhappy. I haven't seen a single person worried about facing premades at all, which is a sign that this request isn't exactly unreasonable.

They took away the fun of working towards rank rewards and said it would be fine because The Feast rewards would make up for that. Now we find that only the brave who want to queue solo and deal with the fighting (already evident in this thread) are getting those. I don't want the queues to die like WD. We need incentives for premades too.

[KingKoush]

People are blowing this out of hand a little, but everyone agrees that grouped parties should have clear rewards. But this is why pre-season exists, so we can quickly tell them to fix these glaring oversights. Aside from this, everything else they've implemented seems pretty great. They've just messed up a bit with the rewards. It's just day 1 of pre-season, we just have to all give this feedback where they can see it.

[Nox_Shinya]

This is insane. This is NOT how you do seasonal rankings. Try applying this logic to PVE. You can't get any drops, titles, gobwalkers etc if you do Savage with your static. You can only get it in Duty Finder.

Also, regarding the rewards, that's also kind of weird. ONE person per DATA CENTER? What? I thought everyone who got to Diamond Rank would at least get something, maybe a seasonal title? Like "Diamond Destroyer of the First Season" or something. What is the point of trying to reach top rank? Let's apply this to PVE again. Only those who have the most savage kills after the patch is done... only one person per data center gets the Gobwalker.

What?

And also;

- Max up to 2 players can queue for 8 v 8. Why?
- Only one player or fours players for 4 v 4? What?

It's so fun that every time SE implements something promising regarding PVP, they always manage to screw something up. They seriously have to stop wasting time on PVP if they are not going to do it right.

[Ultimatecalibur]

How can you be certain? Do you work for SE? To delay premade rewards an entire season makes absolutely no sense. Why should people wait around for that? The purpose of this preseason is to gather data and feedback so changes can be made when Season 1 starts. If we as a playerbase don't speak up, then it won't change. But to sit here and accept it? That's bullshit. It's like have savage raids but the loot only drops from DF, not from going in with your premade party. Like, what's the point?

Because many of the things that they need to have true premade team ranked pvp have not been added yet.

There is no way currently to register as a team so that the 4 players sink or swim together. Currently all the Feast (Ranked/Party) data tells people is that that person won X of Y preformed party vs preformed party matches. A person with 10 wins could have gotten those wins with anywhere between 1 and 10 different premade parties.

Would you rather have the single guy with the best Ranked/Party rank get the season's Trophy or the 4 person team with the best win rate get the Trophy?

[Selli]

None of this makes sense. ._.

No reward for ranking parties? Then why is there even a ranked party mode? People queue for the ranked modes because they want to earn ranks and rewards, take away the rewards and those ranks becoming meaningless. I could understand giving them DIFFERENT rewards, but no rewards at all is just... x.x

Per data center? Are you kidding me? 1/10/100 wouldn't be so bad if it was per server, but per data center is just cruel. Aether has 13 servers while Choas only has 8, which means it's very likely that at least 3 servers on Aether will not see a coat while Choas will see multiple coats on at least one server.

Also a coat and a hat? What about the rest of the outfit? Is next season the gloves, the boots, and the pants? If you don't win the next season as well, you'll forever have an incomplete outfit... lmao.

[EDIT] My ideas for a fix because, why not.
1) Make the rewards per server instead of per data center.
2) Give the top 10 the whole outfit not just the coat, top 100 can still have helm I guess.
3) Give the premade and solo queue ranked the same reward but with a difference (ie, different colors, one is dyable, both are dyable but different shades, something different but still similar)
4) Make the rewards per team instead of per person for premade ranked (ie top team gets trophy, top 10 teams get outfit, top 100 teams get helm. Possibly add a premade register? Just so you whole team gets the reward)
5) Allow people to rank up and seek rewards for both, but can only claim reward for one (whichever they are scored higher in)

[Renault]

Because many of the things that they need to have true premade team ranked pvp have not been added yet.

There is no way currently to register as a team so that the 4 players sink or swim together. Currently all the Feast (Ranked/Party) data tells people is that that person won X of Y preformed party vs preformed party matches. A person with 10 wins could have gotten those wins with anywhere between 1 and 10 different premade parties.

Would you rather have the single guy with the best Ranked/Party rank get the season's Trophy or the 4 person team with the best win rate get the Trophy?

...So? Most other MMO's do not have set teams for PVP. All that matters is that one team goes against another. Even in sports, players are put in or benched. This is no different.

[RiceisNice]

Let me just get my 200 wins for the mount and not touch the mode (again). At work though so I can't really try it for myself yet. If no one minds me asking, how long does a typical match take?