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    Welsper59's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    That's the hope, though so far (and we've had this stuff for nearly two years now) progress has been... Slow?

    We got EU servers, and fingers crossed 3.3 delivers on the Housing adjustments promised around 3.1, but so far we've seen nothing with regards to inventory issues. They've consistently compounded problems with new items and continue to waste potential storage space; Others have pointed out the potential to put more in the Key Item spaces, and I've mentioned how the Armoire potentially wastes space (stores AF but not Augmented AF).

    With all that in mind, it has become increasingly hard for me to just give them the benefit of the doubt on this... They're out right profiting off the issue with the retainer service, which has never sat right with me. Nor has the cash shop in general, but that's vanity fluff I can ignore (for the most part, I still have some issues with it) and we've seen returns on that. They out right stated around its launch that they'd use profits from it to improve servers and provide more Wards for Housing, and we've got (and are getting more of) that. Retainers are, for some, a requirement at this point, and then there is the simple fact that they're not vanity fluff, Venturers give them actual in game value, be that increased chances at rare Venture rewards, or a simple break down of the 18h Venture profits you can bring in (which essentially has SE selling ~120k for $2 a month). Then you have to consider that retainers aren't a one time cost, it's an extra subscription (one which they likely can make projections on). I've always very much been against the retainer service because of that, and always figured they'd work better as veteran rewards. I can get past that if I see inventory issues being sorted out though, but I haven't. I've seen the issue worsen and practically nothing on SEs end about any long term (or short term) solutions...
    That's actually something that I failed to imply/mention (just forgot to) when I brought up the cash shop, so it's good of you to have brought things like the EU servers up. Assuming a big part of it really does come from optional services/goods income (cash shop), then that's likely part of the reason why retainers are the way they are and have not changed... yet (hopefully lol). Maintaining servers is not a one-time expense, just like having additional retainers. It's also not a cheap venture to upkeep, especially if the hosting company knows you're a big name one... mark ups for temporary/monthly/annual services are very real (and unfortunately legal) in many parts of the corporate/business world. It's likely a risk they don't want to take right now to reduce the side income, as it could affect upkeep of those additional servers or other things that are a result of that profit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    as it could affect upkeep of those additional servers or other things that are a result of that profit.
    a) they are not additional servers - they are existing servers that were moved from the existing data center to the EU one
    b) they get our subscription money for the upkeep of servers and development of new content

    We can only hope the cash shop stuff is used to fund more stuff in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruskie View Post
    a) they are not additional servers - they are existing servers that were moved from the existing data center to the EU one
    b) they get our subscription money for the upkeep of servers and development of new content

    We can only hope the cash shop stuff is used to fund more stuff in the game.
    Not quite, the EU datacenter is new hardware, that's why the move was relatively fast.




    As for the glamour log, I don't think that's really a server issue (even if Yoshi says it is), but more a problem that it's hard to come up with a UI that's usable on the PS3. They have very limited resources for the PS3 UI, as well as a limited screen resolution. Glamour log is something that all players should have access to, so implementing it only for PC, Mac and PS4 is not an option.

    (I'm not saying PS3 support should be dropped, or PS3 limitations are common, but in this case, the PS3 is certainly a limiting factor)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Millerna View Post
    Not quite, the EU datacenter is new hardware, that's why the move was relatively fast.




    As for the glamour log, I don't think that's really a server issue (even if Yoshi says it is), but more a problem that it's hard to come up with a UI that's usable on the PS3. They have very limited resources for the PS3 UI, as well as a limited screen resolution. Glamour log is something that all players should have access to, so implementing it only for PC, Mac and PS4 is not an option.

    (I'm not saying PS3 support should be dropped, or PS3 limitations are common, but in this case, the PS3 is certainly a limiting factor)
    DCUO is playable in PS3 and has one if not the best glamour system ever.

    dye included

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    Quote Originally Posted by Millerna View Post
    As for the glamour log, I don't think that's really a server issue (even if Yoshi says it is), but more a problem that it's hard to come up with a UI that's usable on the PS3. They have very limited resources for the PS3 UI, as well as a limited screen resolution. Glamour log is something that all players should have access to, so implementing it only for PC, Mac and PS4 is not an option.
    All clients can already handle glamour. The glamour log isn't a new glamour system, just be a new way of storing a list of which items are available for it. That's really not a client side issue, so PS3 has nothing to do with it. To the client, it would simply be a window listing a bunch of items + the glamouring capabilities it already handles. The PS3 has no trouble displaying a list in a window. You see that all the time (including when you use our current glamour system and it gives a list of items you can glamour). This would just be a different source for that list rather than making one from your inventory and armoury chest.
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