Okay we're a year into HW, where's storage diversity?

[Nalien]

I like how you're latching onto the example I'm using, rather than my actual argument.

It simply isn't efficient to go out and buy the materials when you can simply have a stock. Potash? What if I have no GC Seals? Aethersand may rarely come in stacks, but I've seen plenty of times when my options are either pay an inflated value, or buy quantities I don't need, usually when other crafts swept through and bought up most of the market boards stock.

You're essentially say it is more efficient to go out and obtain this stuff or check the market board (which has stupid things like location taxes) than to just pick some up off your retainer... It isn't, it is out right more efficient to just open my retainers inventory, get what I need, and craft.

Lets use Collectables as an example. You can either;

Have everything you need on a retainer, sit in Idyllshire and make all the stuff and turn it in within a few minutes, or;
You can run around Eorzea, going to various Market Boards and NPCs to get all the materials, then craft the stuff and return to Idyllshire to turn it all in.

One of these is faster than the other. One of these is more efficient.

[MomomiMomi]

I like how you're latching onto the example I'm using, rather than my actual argument.

Because I don't know of any examples that actually support your argument.

Things that are sold in stacks are fast selling and easily obtainable.

Things that are rare are only sold in small 1-5 batches.

It simply isn't efficient to go out and buy the materials when you can simply have a stock.

And then you're complaining about inventory.

[Breezelyn]

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Not always. There could be 99 stacks only of a material you need, but only when like say....1-3 of the thing for something you're crafting. Sometimes, even the "easily obtained items" can be bought up fast and none left on the board. Or, you don't have the means to get them. A lot can go on. I'll admit the rare items usually are sold either 1, 3, or 5 at most. Then you have the over 6+ stacks.
The problem still remains though. With all the recipes in the game needing all kinds of materials for crafting + things you want to glamour on gear, there isn't a lot of inventory space tbh. That doesn't include tokens from extreme primals, for relic, and other shit that could be thrown into key items for the sake of space. I feel that an extra retainer as a vet reward might be temporary relief. Paying for extra retainers is a bit absurd tbh.

[Nalien]

And then you're complaining about inventory.

Funny thing is, I'm not.

When I complain about inventory, it's because I've got two retainers full of gear that is pretty irritating for me to go out and obtain again. As far as materials go, I've found a fairly efficient balance of storing what I need to allow me to crafting whatever, whenever. My grip with this games pathetic inventory system for gear that I really do not want to spend hours upon ours going out to reobtain...

As far as material storage goes, two retainers is plenty, and it is outright more efficient however much you want to pretend it isn't. The issue comes from SE giving us inadequate gear storage, that is a headache and eventually negatively impacts material storage.

[MomomiMomi]

Funny thing is, I'm not.

When I complain about inventory, it's because I've got two retainers full of gear that is pretty irritating for me to go out and obtain again. As far as materials go, I've found a fairly efficient balance of storing what I need to allow me to crafting whatever, whenever. My grip with this games pathetic inventory system for gear that I really do not want to spend hours upon ours going out to reobtain...

But you would be if you're hoarding a ton of materials instead of selling them. You = general populace. Anyone who is hoarding materials with this game's constrained inventory system is doing themselves a disservice. I'm not saying that inventory couldn't be better. I'm talking about playing within the existing constraints.

Have everything you need on a retainer, sit in Idyllshire and make all the stuff and turn it in within a few minutes, or;
You can run around Eorzea, going to various Market Boards and NPCs to get all the materials, then craft the stuff and return to Idyllshire to turn it all in.

Who does that? It isn't worth the time it takes to go to a different market board to avoid the tax unless you're spending millions of gil on something.

[Nalien]

I don't think you fully understand the difference between hoarding and maintaining a stock of materials...

Hoarders never use the stuff they hoard. The vast majority of crafters I've seen frequently use up their supply and restock.

[MomomiMomi]

I don't think you fully understand the difference between hoarding and maintaining a stock of materials...

Hoarders never use the stuff they hoard. The vast majority of crafters I've seen frequently use up their supply and restock.

Hoard, v.: to accumulate for preservation, future use, etc., in a hidden or carefully guarded place:

Synynoms: stockpile, reserve, cache, store, stock.

[Chasely]

Also, seling low (when people no longer need items) and buying high (When a new synth comes out requiring said items) is a huge waste of money. You don't get rich by being wasteful.

[Nalien]

Oh, you're using the dictionary definition, rather than the cultural one, that's nice, I guess...

Whatever, I think we're done here. You can keep telling us we're hoarding if you like. Doesn't change the fact that SE needs to sort out the inventory system in this game, or that we're simply being far more efficient with our time (and Gil) by "hoarding" materials. This is far from an issue that solely impacts crafters. Anyone who is "hoarding" their accomplishments (ie, gear rewards) and doesn't feel like tossing them away to maybe get lucky and be able to farm them again one day (which is down right impossible for Crystal Tower gear atm) is going to have issues with inventory space. Crafters just add fuel to the fire, there is no reason, in a game we're paying a monthly subscription for, that we should have to sacrifice efficiency for storage space. SE isn't some crippled indie developer that can't afford new servers to sort this crap out, they're just another stupid AAA developer that would rather take (massive, if XI set any kind of precedent) profits from one project and use it to fuel an utter abomination (like FFVIIHD).

[MomomiMomi]

Oh, you're using the dictionary definition, rather than the cultural one, that's nice, I guess...

Whatever, I think we're done here. You can keep telling us we're hoarding if you like. Doesn't change the fact that SE needs to sort out the inventory system in this game, or that we're simply being far more efficient with our time (and Gil) by "hoarding" materials.

You still haven't explained how. You either spent time or gil getting your stock.