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    Nice positive review. However, I think that it's too difficult to rate the entire expansion if you just reached 60. It excludes all of the end-game, pacing of patches and QoL issues that are persistent. I guess it is up for debate, but I think a review of Heavensward should include:

    Gordias normal
    Gordias savage
    Midas normal
    Midas savage
    Bismark extreme
    Ravana extreme
    Thordan extreme
    Sephirot extreme
    Hildibrand 3.0
    Scholasticate
    New jobs (DRK AST MCH)
    New skills for each new job
    All the new dungeons (Dusk Vigil -> Pharos Hard)
    Diadem
    Frontlines
    Novice Network/Hall of the Novice/Mentors
    Crafting (red scrips, specializations etc)

    as well as things you mentioned such as

    Main story
    Leveling progression
    Flying
    Open world zones
    Sound and Music
    Graphics

    as well as QoL concerns both present and absent
    API support
    Countdown clock on skill timers
    Auto-attack icon
    Selling from retainers

    and then some.

    Anyway, glad you are enjoying things!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Nice positive review. However, I think that it's too difficult to rate the entire expansion if you just reached 60. It excludes all of the end-game, pacing of patches and QoL issues that are persistent. I guess it is up for debate, but I think a review of Heavensward should include:**snip**

    Anyway, glad you are enjoying things!
    I agree about making a wider review. Though it's nice to see a positive take on the game. Personally I think it is an excellent game which has several areas where it can improve - it's a living, breathing thing that is continually updated so it can improve.

    However, I have to question the need to include Extreme or Savage anything, after all the typical player doesn't run EX or Savage content. I think it's quite sufficient to review a game on the basis of the normal content of the game and simply indicate that there are raid level versions of these various encounters also available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    I agree about making a wider review. Though it's nice to see a positive take on the game. Personally I think it is an excellent game which has several areas where it can improve - it's a living, breathing thing that is continually updated so it can improve.

    However, I have to question the need to include Extreme or Savage anything, after all the typical player doesn't run EX or Savage content. I think it's quite sufficient to review a game on the basis of the normal content of the game and simply indicate that there are raid level versions of these various encounters also available.
    I think that a review should include all aspects of the game, and the reader of the review can choose to ignore certain parts they don't care about.

    For example, I don't care about crafting or pvp, but still feel they should be included in the review. As a reader, I can decide they don't fit with my interests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    I think that a review should include all aspects of the game, and the reader of the review can choose to ignore certain parts they don't care about.
    It is reviewing all aspects of the game the major difference between Savage and Normal modes of things is that Savage is much more highly tuned and is more lethal to characters. It's still largely the same fight and experience. You don't need to have done the EX and Savage content to review the game. EX and savage content is optional content that is an intentionally much harder version of existing content. There's literally no reason to require that a reviewer run EX and savagae content unless they are specifically reviewing the top tier raids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    I agree about making a wider review. Though it's nice to see a positive take on the game. Personally I think it is an excellent game which has several areas where it can improve - it's a living, breathing thing that is continually updated so it can improve.

    However, I have to question the need to include Extreme or Savage anything, after all the typical player doesn't run EX or Savage content. I think it's quite sufficient to review a game on the basis of the normal content of the game and simply indicate that there are raid level versions of these various encounters also available.
    Thank you, its nice to see somebody agrees with me. Just because I'm not hardcore means I can't have an opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddwarbird View Post
    Thank you, its nice to see somebody agrees with me. Just because I'm not hardcore means I can't have an opinion
    I'm sorry that you can't take feedback. I guess I'll leave this thread. I hope you continue to enjoy the game.

    Cheers
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    I appreciate what you are saying but to me, an avarage player, hardcore raiding and utter top tier is nothing something I am going to bother with. This review was aimed at casual players like myself but your opinion is appriciated.
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