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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    Every tank should use this countdown macro instead of that garbage ready check.

    Do you know that when ready check window pops up on the screen while people are preparing for their attack opener, it's VERY VERY VERY ANNOYING!! Stop doing it. Just use a countdown macro so everybody can time their opener properly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I hate countdown macros. Overly annoying.
    Any in-battle macros are also going to impede your flow over time as they can't queue like an ability can. Even if it's just to announce you've done something. I can't tell you how often a Provoke macro never actually used Provoke, ending in a very dead other tank.

    As someone else mentioned, crafting macros tend to be the only useful ones. Perhaps lengthy explanations or gear lot rules perhaps. But not for anything in battle itself.
    Actually, I have some macros. All abilities tied to it are oGCD if they involve abilities (with the exception of the provoke macro which also fires Shield Lob/Tomahawk/Unmend a second later if I fail to react after the provoke, but I am getting better at manually handling the bit after the provoke). I use a provoke macro, a SwiftRess macro (no hard ress one), one for my Hallowed Ground (Holmgang and Living Dead are NOT macro'd), and a pull macro. I also make macros to announce certain mechanics and how to deal with them, or manage positionals, etc. They're the ones that announce stuff to players that I actively use.

    I also have 2 macros that don't announce stuff. These are Defiance and Deliverance. What these do is they /echo what ability got used, and adjust my hotbars so that abilities I can't use get hidden for abilities I can use. When I use the Defiance macro it adds Inner Beast and Steel Tempest to my hotbars, and vice-versa for Deliverance, which adds Fell Cleave and Decimate to my hotbars. When they're used, they replace the abilities found in the other.

    Crafting macros? I don't use them. I manually click every single ability (which I don't mind doing, since I have a 17 button mouse)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    All abilities tied to it are oGCD if they involve abilities (with the exception of the provoke macro which also fires Shield Lob/Tomahawk/Unmend a second later if I fail to react after the provoke, but I am getting better at manually handling the bit after the provoke). I use a provoke macro, a SwiftRess macro (no hard ress one), one for my Hallowed Ground (Holmgang and Living Dead are NOT macro'd), and a pull macro. I also make macros to announce certain mechanics and how to deal with them, or manage positionals, etc. They're the ones that announce stuff to players that I actively use.

    I also have 2 macros that don't announce stuff. These are Defiance and Deliverance. What these do is they /echo what ability got used, and adjust my hotbars so that abilities I can't use get hidden for abilities I can use. When I use the Defiance macro it adds Inner Beast and Steel Tempest to my hotbars, and vice-versa for Deliverance, which adds Fell Cleave and Decimate to my hotbars. When they're used, they replace the abilities found in the other.
    These are all abilities you want to be able to go off no matter what.
    So macroing them is the worst way to achieve this. All macros cannot be queued like an ability can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    These are all abilities you want to be able to go off no matter what.
    So macroing them is the worst way to achieve this. All macros cannot be queued like an ability can.
    Honestly, with my mouse and keyboard/gamepad... they fail to go off so infrequently (maybe due to the practice I've had), that it REALLY doesn't matter to me. On the rare (and I mean extremely rare) occasion that it fails, it's fine, I deal with it. Because of how I use them reactionarily and know when it's safe to weave them in between other stuff, they pretty much always go off. Maybe I've gotten used to it, but it really isn't as bad as you make it out to be in my experience. Even when I was first using them, the failure rate was still less than 1%.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    I wish more warriors would use berserk macros when I'm on my bard character. I love using wanderers but I can never tell when they used berserk since party list only shows up to 5 buffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    I wish more warriors would use berserk macros when I'm on my bard character. I love using wanderers but I can never tell when they used berserk since party list only shows up to 5 buffs.
    They have to be...well..not obnoxious though. My friend has a macro, it's literally just "Used Berserk" with a ping.
    That's it. That's all I need, honestly. I don't need a countdown, I don't need fifty notifications that it's going to happen.

    Just one line, please.

    In response I use WP on him all the time and he loves it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    They have to be...well..not obnoxious though. My friend has a macro, it's literally just "Used Berserk" with a ping.
    That's it. That's all I need, honestly. I don't need a countdown, I don't need fifty notifications that it's going to happen.

    Just one line, please.

    In response I use WP on him all the time and he loves it.
    Agreed, people have do the whole
    /p 3
    /p 2
    /p 1
    /p LEECH/ESUNA NOW!

    I just ignore em and continue being busy with something else. His loss of dps for all of 2 hits isn't going to affect us or make the clear any faster. The 1 time warning tho, no problem, will gladly cover ya all day long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    They have to be...well..not obnoxious though. My friend has a macro, it's literally just "Used Berserk" with a ping.
    That's it. That's all I need, honestly. I don't need a countdown, I don't need fifty notifications that it's going to happen.

    Just one line, please.

    In response I use WP on him all the time and he loves it.

    This sooo much this... If you let me know you're using it - I will most likely find the time to pop it on you in the N-seconds that it's active. Don't expect it always though since it depends on what I'm doing at the time.

    And Pull macros YES please 12-15s prefered - but again this is for EX/savage and the like. I don't expect it in dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruskie View Post
    This sooo much this... If you let me know you're using it - I will most likely find the time to pop it on you in the N-seconds that it's active. Don't expect it always though since it depends on what I'm doing at the time.

    And Pull macros YES please 12-15s prefered - but again this is for EX/savage and the like. I don't expect it in dungeons.
    With berserk, I just trust my healers to see the debuff, so I don't announce it period (I'm considering relegating my Hallowed Ground to being a non-announced skill). As for pull macros, I've had NINs ask for 20 seconds due to Ninjutsu, so they can pre-use Huton before the pull, before opening when the CD timer expires with another Ninjutsu, so I rock a 20s macro. It goes 20 (ping), 10 (no ping), 5 (no ping), 4 (no ping), 3 (ping), 2 (ping), 1 (ping), begin (ping).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.