People who haven't cleared Contaiment Bay S1T7 (Extreme) yet.

[ScarletDawn]

Didnt take long for the elitist group to lay claim to the PF, now only "Clear" groups exist also why ilvl 210? What good is slapping 5 extra ilvls going to do...all it does is add maybe 10-20 extra stats.

[mirta000]

Didnt take long for the elitist group to lay claim to the PF, now only "Clear" groups exist also why ilvl 210? What good is slapping 5 extra ilvls going to do...all it does is add maybe 10-20 extra stats.

probs because iLvl 210 is very easy to get ATM. Plus it's still a high heal check and I would say a medium DPS check?

[CGMidlander]

Didnt take long for the elitist group to lay claim to the PF, now only "Clear" groups exist also why ilvl 210? What good is slapping 5 extra ilvls going to do...all it does is add maybe 10-20 extra stats.

Sephirot EX has been out for enough time for many people to have practiced most of the fight. It's not unusual nor elitist for there to be clear parties intent on clearing.

There's nothing stopping people from making learning party listings btw. In fact, the last thing I did ingame before logging off tonight was participate in one.

[ScarletDawn]

probs because iLvl 210 is very easy to get ATM. Plus it's still a high heal check and I would say a medium DPS check?

5 ilvls dont make much of a difference to healing, maybe what 50-100 more hp per heal? When he hits for about 18k and 4-8k aoes its kinda not much at all. Food does more and i rarely see anyone using food.

[mirta000]

5 ilvls dont make much of a difference to healing, maybe what 50-100 more hp per heal? When he hits for about 18k and 4-8k aoes its kinda not much at all. Food does more and i rarely see anyone using food.

any extra DPS is extra DPS and any extra healing is extra healing. Same way that relic farm parties were iLvl 190 to 200 minimum. People set the minimum to what is actually easy to get and most population will have, but is as far above the minimum iLvl of the instance as they can to have an easier time. I wouldn't put it past people to set it for iLvl 220 minimum as soon as servers start consistently hitting that without needing to buy your gear off MB.

[Jamillion]

Didnt take long for the elitist group to lay claim to the PF, now only "Clear" groups exist also why ilvl 210? What good is slapping 5 extra ilvls going to do...all it does is add maybe 10-20 extra stats.

The real reason for setting ilvl at 210 or 214 for instance is that you make it so people can only join on their main job, that way you don't have to deal with once a month healers, tanks, DPS trying to farm weapons on a job they're no good with.

[ScarletDawn]

The real reason for setting ilvl at 210 or 214 for instance is that you make it so people can only join on their main job, that way you don't have to deal with once a month healers, tanks, DPS trying to farm weapons on a job they're no good with.

What i don't like is the whole No bonus or Farm no bonus...yea cause a random PF with no coms is not going to wipe at least once. Just hate this elitist if we wipe once its end party mentality on lich. Also fact is in 7 weeks time + lore the weps are outclassed and Savage will take over aagain

[mirta000]

What i don't like is the whole No bonus or Farm no bonus...yea cause a random PF with no coms is not going to wipe at least once. Just hate this elitist if we wipe once its end party mentality on lich. Also fact is in 7 weeks time + lore the weps are outclassed and Savage will take over aagain

if the whole server is pretty much synced, they're not. On the other hand in bonus parties you have no idea how many bonuses will actually sneak in. And especially with Seph Ex watching a video and knowing the fight is not the same as being able to clear it.

That being said Odin pugs seem to manage Seph Ex, A5s and A6s at the same time as there are pug clear groups for all 3 types of content.

[Xellos2099]

I finally got my clear after spending 2 weeks in the pf. Somethign I noticed this fight require a lot of synergy compare to like thordan. I seen group that does amazing dps but they don't work "well" together,

[Frederick22]

Yesterday I joined on PF a pug party for Sephirot EX. The comments explisit said it was a clear party, the one were you expect most ppl know the fight from top to bottom and where mistakes could happen only on phase 3 right? Maybe a little mistakes on the early ones but something that happens one time and thats it.

Well this group I joined were doing constant mistakes on phases 1/2 , ppl dieing on orbs, not stacking or adds not killed enought.
After too many wipes on early phases I asked nicely to call it for today and they refused, after more wipes I asked to call it again beacuse we were not doing any progress. Lets remember all it supposed to be a clear.

Well people starting to left and suddently all putted the blame on my lol. That I was an elitist, that I was a "king top 1 that I consider myself above all others" and I was brining morality down and making everyone feel they were usefull.
Then it begin the insults and the "you are childish", "you want perfection", etc, etc

Did I was rude? no ,Did I said anything bad?no ,Did I wanted perfection? no , Like I said to them. I just wanted to call it beacuse we were not doing any progress and it was ssupposed to be a clear party, were its expect that people know the hole fight.