Black Mage Sanctuary - A Guide to DPS

[Waliel]

Ah, I understand now. So basically just swapping out the Flare for an extra F4. That would be roughly 1.8 PPS higher than using Flare so yeah I can see that being plausible if you don't get the proc. Only downfall would be if you get targeted by something and have to move, you might end up losing the GCD all together. But I'd have to test this as well. How much time is left on AF when you cast B3?

Tested quickly with 850ish SS and it's almost exactly two seconds. You get changed to UI3 before you reach the last second of AF3.

Sharp>Quelling>Ley Lines>F1>Enochian>RS>F3 Proc>Pot>F4>F4>F4>F1>Swift>F4>Convert>F4>F4>B3>T1>B4

I seemed to totally miss this, but isn't this exactly what I was talking about? Replace the Flare with an extra F4. Ley is also used one GCD earlier during pre-pull, which saves like 0.5 seconds during the opener, but you will lose one F4 Ley cast after the ice.

[DasGreg]

Thanks for the feedback garotte. Yes I had meant to type sharp cast. I've been trying to find a more current opener detailed in this thread but I'm having trouble. I see F1 - F4x4 a lot here but I'm kind of confused on the entire sequence. Are people using 1 stack of astral? I don't imagine they are. So if you could explain to me some alternative openings; I would appreciate seeing an exact layout of our options.

[smallbeach]

"Sharp>Quelling>Ley Lines>F1>Enochian>RS>F3 Proc>Pot>F4>F4>F4>F1>Swift>F4>Convert>F4>F4>B3>T1>B4"

this opener looks pretty good but it made me tought of something that looks even better :

No proc version : Queulling+sharp+sprint - Fire - Enochian+leylines - F3proc - RS+pot - F4 - F4 - F4 - F1 - F4 - convert - F4 - F4 - B3 - T1 - B4

Proc version (looks rly good to me but im bad at calculating potency per sec) : Queulling+sharp+sprint - Fire - Enochian+leylines - F3proc - RS+pot - F4 - F4 - F4 - F1 - F4 - F3proc - convert+swiftcast - F4 - F4 - B3 - T1 - B4

having leylines before fire is a waste because you precast it, saving it for right after enochian allow you to get a F4 under leylines on next fire rotation (at least for me with 1070 spellspeed)
In both of my opener, RS covers every Fire4 and xpot cover everything aswell except for the last Fire4
It looks like F3 opener, but the difference is you can always cast thunder if you have at least 264 piety

I didnt try it but it might cover everything with feywind

[Garotte14]

No proc version : Queulling+sharp+sprint - Fire - Enochian+leylines - F3proc - RS+pot - F4 - F4 - F4 - F1 - F4 - convert - F4 - F4 - B3 - T1 - B4

Proc version (looks rly good to me but im bad at calculating potency per sec) : Queulling+sharp+sprint - Fire - Enochian+leylines - F3proc - RS+pot - F4 - F4 - F4 - F1 - F4 - F3proc - convert+swiftcast - F4 - F4 - B3 - T1 - B4

Well, this is kinda what we've been discussing and trying to narrow down and similar to what Waliel was talking about. Your oGCD usage at the beginning might be more optimal, but I think we'd always be better off casting 2 F4s first instead of 3. Reason being is, you're fishing for the proc. If you do F4x3 > F1 (procs) > F4 > F3proc > Convert + Swiftcast > F4x2, then you are double weaving Convert and Swift under Firestarter which, with our spell speed, is impossible without delay. Especially with Fey wind. So the more optimal way is to go F4x2 > F1 (procs) > F4 > F3proc > Swiftcast > F4 > Convert > F4x2. Now you gain extra PPS because you save time on oGCD usage.

having leylines before fire is a waste because you precast it, saving it for right after enochian allow you to get a F4 under leylines on next fire rotation (at least for me with 1070 spellspeed)

Edit: Actually, I've started testing this, and it isn't actually a waste because the longest animation lock we have by far is the Potion. So double weaving a potion with any other oGCD takes alot of time, even under Firestarter. Casting Ley Lines immediately before Fire allows you to double weave Enochian + Raging Strikes and then weave the potion by itself under the F3proc. I'm sitting at 849 SS before food currently, and I was able to do all 6 Fire IVs, the Fire, and the Firestarter under Raging Strikes. This only works if you use the Firestarter last. The only issue with this opener becomes placement and movement. Its very tight. First it will have to be a fight where you can pre-position yourself since you're casting Ley Lines first, and second, any movement can really screw this up.
Everything everyone has been saying is great, and I'll be taking a very close look at every idea the rest of this weekend and update everyone. I have yet to update my current guide yet after 3.2 so that's what I'm working on now.

I truly appreciate everyone's feedback and discussing this stuff here is great for the community. I'll update with my findings by the end of the weekend.

[MiniTyra]

Heya guys!

Dervy is finally starting work on the first-pass of his BLM excel sim. Dervy being Derpy, he wants to ensure it's near perfect and can visually track every single buff/debuff/timer/resource that the BLM has to manage.

So far, he has:

• T1/T3 DoT Tracker
• Ley Lines Tracker
• Enochian Tracker
• Mana Tracker
• Will be adding Astral/Umbral Stack Tracker soon

Is there anything else that's not on the list, that he also needs to be aware of?

Thanks

[Hontaro]

Thundercloud/Firestarter maybe?

[Garotte14]

Heya guys!

Dervy is finally starting work on the first-pass of his BLM excel sim. Dervy being Derpy, he wants to ensure it's near perfect and can visually track every single buff/debuff/timer/resource that the BLM has to manage.

So far, he has:

• T1/T3 DoT Tracker
• Ley Lines Tracker
• Enochian Tracker
• Mana Tracker
• Will be adding Astral/Umbral Stack Tracker soon

Is there anything else that's not on the list, that he also needs to be aware of?

Thanks

Raging Strikes and Convert

[nugglets]

The only downfall I can see with your opener would be on certain fights. Let me explain. You precast Ley lines in your opener, which moves Enochian and Raging Strikes down the list a few GCDs, which will mean that you have to be pre-positioned before the pull, like A3S for example. However, if you can't be pre-postitioned, you put yourself in a spot where you can't execute the opener to its full potential. If you swap Ley Lines with Enochian or RS, then you risk Enochian falling off, or RS not being up for your FS and potentially the F4. However, in the other sharp opener, you are able to swap Ley Lines with Enochian if you have to move after the pull and still pull off the full opener. We should be catering our openers depending on the fight anyways, so shouldn't be too much of an issue.

Yep, I agree with this completely. A good BLM has always adjusted the opener to fit the fight, and this would be no exception. That said, I don't actually have to use Swift to pull off the opener with my current SS with food at 921. Even without Fey Wind, I can now get it done in plenty of time. So this would be one way to adjust for movement or mechanics.

With Fey Wind, I'm pulling the full opener, with proc, and still getting B3 and T1 under RS if Swift is used. When I don't use Swift and get a proc, I'm doing F1>F4>Proc>Convert>F4>F4 and still hitting everything before B3 under RS. I haven't tested this without Fey yet, though, so not sure how it would go.

And if you have Fey Wind, you can easily swap Ley and Enochian as I am refreshing Enoch with 4-5s left even with the proc which would allow for positioning just after the pull.

So far, I'm really enjoying this opener. It's fairly fluid and, as you mentioned, not having to try and double-oGCD the Pot makes a significant difference IMO.

[Garotte14]

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I've been testing this as well. I'm pretty crit/det heavy and sitting at 889 SS with food. I'm cutting it really close, but I also think that has a lot to do with reprogramming muscle memory. I still have some other variations and oGCD uses to test, but it's looking like this might be the best 3.2 opener. At least without doing some crazy piety builds or anything crazy like that.

[Mercutial]

Obviously snagged the legs for the first lore purchase, but is anyone else thinking about putting off that chest for the forseeable future? Problem being the prototype chest is hot garbage too.