Please Remove the Materia Melding Crafter Restriction

[Fufupel]

Are people so shy of asking a crafter to meld for them? They won't bite and you may end up making a great friend. I've met 3 awesome crafters on my server that I always go to meld/craft me some high end glamour. And if that doesn't work ask your FC come on people this is an MMO.

[Squigley]

Wow, after reading this thread I feel so dirty being a lvl60 omnicrafter. Like some leper that raiders don't want to touch even with a long stick. "OMG, I actually have to ask THAT filthy person for a favor because I CBA to level crafts myself?!"

As someone else said before: Crafting is fairly useless in its current state. If the melding "exclusivity" would be removed, they might as well remove a vast majority of the crafting classes as well, leaving only ALC for pots, CUL for food and merging all the rest to GLM for glamour making. This melding thing highlights the crafting problems even more.

[Andrea]

not everyone likes crafting and you can't force someone to like something they hate..

Why on earth do people feel that they must like every single thing in an mmo?

Some crafters dont like combat or don't like gathering but we have to do them anyway or we as you put it "are held hostage by time or other people"

You can only get one lore piece a week, couple that with an alexander piece for a max of I believe 4 melds a week. I can guarantee that if you were to shout in idyllshire for a crafter you would get one not only incredibly quick but also one that will do it for free.

Claiming that you are now held hostage is like a crafter complaining they dont like gathering but expect the benefit of having a gatherer to 60.

[Lambdafish]

The OP is completely right. On the subject, can crafters also be allowed to gather materials please? I hate that I either have to level all the gathering jobs, or have to spend ridiculous amounts on the market board to even have the materials to craft, it's not fair SE.

I hate gathering and shouldn't be forced to do it in order to be able to craft all the items, I levelled a crafter, why should I need another type of job to be able to do everything.

Yes this thread is stupid.

[Sida]

I just realised something about this "I don't want to need to bother other people." It has nothing to do with being, or not wanting to be social. The problem comes from the position. The person has to go asking help which, in some degree, makes them have to admit to themselves that someone else is better than them in some aspect that now means to them. And that can eat man a lot.

[Remus]

So far any crafter in my FC i have asked over team speak and friends in-game if they would mind players without crafting able to do normal melds but can't do overmelds they said they are fine with that. I don't see why people give the excuse of being social because when i ask someone for melds all i do is shout in FC chat meet person open meld window click then thanks...very social guys.

Now they made it even possible to do it without even being on the craft you can be on a battle class wasn't needed but they done it for convenience sake and you already make 220 gear and I'm sure people are social for that when asking a crafter to make something and they can provide materials and such. Might as well just give it to players to do themselves at this rate its 100% anyway. They could just add a NPC for it but can't do overmelds.

When i see some of these replies as to why we shouldn't allow players without crafting to meld the 100% slots it feels like they are just looking for a way to make themselves feel important no offense.

[Lambdafish]

When i see some of these replies as to why we shouldn't allow players without crafting to meld the 100% slots it feels like they are just looking for a way to make themselves feel important no offense.

Actually it is for balance. All disciples require others in order to be optimal, and that is how the balance and relevance in the game works, crafters are upset at this request because battle classes have barely any restrictions in this regard but crafters have a lot more.

Battle classes need crafters to meld (but request meld is a thing)
Battle classes need crafters to repair (though not really, repair NPC is a thing)
Battle classes need crafters to make gear (lol, no, im not even putting this)
Battle classes need crafters for.... glamour......

Crafters need gathering classes to function cost effectively
Crafters need battle classes to function cost effectively (LTW)
Crafters need battle classes for dungeon drops
Crafters need battle classes to even get into the expansion/do story content (thanks Sida for pointing that out)
Crafters need OTHER PLAYERS CRAFTERS for specialist (cant even level to get out of that one).

Gatherers need crafting classes for gear/bait.
Gatherers need crafting classes for melds (far more than battle classes)
Gatherers need battle classes to get into the expansion/do story content

So remind me, with all of these disciples needing each other, why should melding not require a crafter?

[Felis]

Admittedly, various crafts for a single job can be annoying in other ways too. "Hmmm this job seems to have a lot of Weaver stuff, maybe this equip is Weaver. Nope. Maybe Leatherworking? Nope. Armorer? No? Where the hell... Alchemy? Are you serious? Alchemy..." I'm sure some of us have run into that little annoyance from time to time.

The class who can repair it (that is also who can craft it, if craftable)
It is not so hard. Don't read anyone tool tips?

[Sida]

Crafters need gathering classes to function cost effectively
Crafters need battle classes to function cost effectively (LTW)
Crafters need battle classes for dungeon drops
Crafters need OTHER PLAYERS CRAFTERS for specialist (cant even level to get out of that one).

Gatherers need crafting classes for gear/bait.

Crafters and gatherers need to have leveled a battle class -and- go through the MQ in said battle class (including passing quite a number if duties) to get into HW content to:
- Be able to do their class quests. (There might be few crafts exluded of this, not sure)
- Be able to get into areas that are gated behind the main quest. Including idyllshire for the craft/gatherer red scrip content. As well as for gatherers to get into areas to gather the stuff.

There were actually people who were crying out about this on HW launch, that they can't level purely crafter/gatherer due the area locks but the answer from general player populace was to shut up and go level a battle class. And no, they don't even have an option to "just ask from someone else" on this.

[Lambdafish]

Crafters and gatherers need to have leveled a battle class -and- go through the MQ in said battle class (including passing quite a number if duties) to get into HW content to:
- Be able to do their class quests. (There might be few crafts exluded of this, not sure)
- Be able to get into areas that are gated behind the main quest. Including idyllshire for the craft/gatherer red scrip content. As well as for gatherers to get into areas to gather the stuff.

I never said it was a problem, I was acknowledging it as fact. My point was more that crafters need to use their battle class (in dungeons or in the open world) in order to get certain materials, hence the "you need a battle class to get this stuff for your crafter," and that is how the two roles feed off each other.

It is not a problem, but it is how the system works, the 3 roles are designed to need the others in some aspect, and messing with that in favor of battle classes will naturally make crafters salty, because since 3.0 they have only added restrictions to them.