Raid 24 and incredible bad choice for the additional loot.

[Paladinleeds]

I propose a different solution.

If you run it at level 50, you have to go in 24 man yes.

If you run it at level 60, you go in as 8 man (with one mini-boss automatically skipped in each of LOTA/WOD because there's no way you can do that 8 man). Here's how the 8-man versions would work.
Party composition:
Labyrinth of the Ancients: 2 tanks, 1 healer, 4 DPS
Syrcus Tower: 2 tanks, 1 healer, 6 DPS
World of Darkness: 2 tanks, 1 healer, 6 DPS.

Echidna card is definitely alliance. Had 9 different rolls on it last run.

And even if you have it you can still need. Heck, if you already have one or have claimed the card already making it greed only would go a LONG way to fixing the problem.

[SokiYagami]

They should have just keep the card a personal drop directly into inventory imo. Putting the card into the 4th chest to deal with the "4th chest is too rare" complaints is an insult to the players.

3.2 have many things done right and I'm really grateful to the development team, but things like this "band aid" and the tower music loot table seriously grant me instant 5 stack of wraith... And I really want to Fell Cleave someone... ugh...

[Paladinleeds]

3.2 have many things done right and I'm really grateful to the development team, but things like this "band aid" and the tower music loot table seriously grant me instant 5 stack of wraith... And I really want to Fell Cleave someone... ugh...

Then swap to Deliverance and Fell Cleave someone! LOL

[RyuSaarva]

I think square should just mog mail every item from them to every player.

[Ashelia_Ferron]

I propose a different solution.

If you run it at level 50, you have to go in 24 man yes.

If you run it at level 60, you go in as 8 man (with one mini-boss automatically skipped in each of LOTA/WOD because there's no way you can do that 8 man). Here's how the 8-man versions would work.
Party composition:
Labyrinth of the Ancients: 2 tanks, 1 healer, 4 DPS
Syrcus Tower: 2 tanks, 1 healer, 6 DPS
World of Darkness: 2 tanks, 1 healer, 6 DPS.



And even if you have it you can still need. Heck, if you already have one or have claimed the card already making it greed only would go a LONG way to fixing the problem.

Err just so you know, your 3 suggested party compositions are 7 man, and 9 man. Not 8 man lol

[SokiYagami]

I think square should just mog mail every item from them to every player.

Just because you don't desire an item doesn't mean we should get screwed over for it. There's a difference between rare and uncalled for gating. How often, if any complaints (on this forum, outside of this thread) was directed towards 8 man content Orchestrion drop? I don't recall seeing any within the past week or so. There's plenty of good reason that we have already listed in our complaints regarding the towers Orchestrion drop. Hell, we even provided a couple suggestions on improving the situation. We aren't exactly asking it to be serve on a silver plate, mind you. We do put in our share of work into getting the items too, but the current conditions is simply unpleasant. And also, as I'd mentioned on another Orchestrion thread. There's a player on Tonberry server showing off his music scroll by placing it on the mb for 100 mil. If that's not fk'ed up, I don't know what is. Hence once again, may I humbly request for SE to consider changing the tower Orchestrion drop to drop directly into player's inventory like the 4 man dungeons ones please.

Then swap to Deliverance and Fell Cleave someone! LOL

I would if I could, and there's already someone on this thread which I feel like setting up a date with my axe (after the person who decided on the tower Orchestrion loot table).