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  1. #11
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    Matthias Gendrin
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by JustalGalkus View Post
    Lets face it. Any tank worth his salt isn't going to be using slaying for any reason. the VIT has too many pluses to be casually discarded in lieu of some minor DPS increase which to be honest is complete shit now regardless of what you do.
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  2. #12
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    Lord Nick
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    Gladiator Lv 62
    I can't think of a reason to wear slaying accessories. I've had a super easy and effective run in full fending in Midas NM, as well as VA and all the dungeons. No issues with tanking or enmityou control.
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  3. #13
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    Sarcatica Lin
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    Tonberry
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by JustalGalkus View Post
    Lets face it. Any tank worth his salt isn't going to be using slaying for any reason. the VIT has too many pluses to be casually discarded in lieu of some minor DPS increase which to be honest is complete shit now regardless of what you do.
    People also seem to think that they can eat tank busters with 17k HP. I would love to see how they feel when they step into Midas Savage.
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  4. #14
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    Sarcatica Lin
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Violette View Post
    Uplander Doom is the tank buster which forces a swap.
    Except that you don't need a swap if both healers are any decent and the tank isn't a scumbag for not using CDs for it.
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  5. #15
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcatica View Post
    People also seem to think that they can eat tank busters with 17k HP. I would love to see how they feel when they step into Midas Savage.
    They won't make it into Savage. Sephirot EX will still be having words with them.

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  6. #16
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    Washed Up
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    Theres really only one fix for this. They need to fix parry.
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  7. #17
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    Sarcatica Lin
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    They won't make it into Savage. Sephirot EX will still be having words with them.

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    Receive this Da'at to your squishy face! I hope you learn from this knowledge!
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  8. #18
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    Keiga Dawnstar
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Fue View Post
    Theres really only one fix for this. They need to fix parry.
    only the rate, but what good is fixing the rate if it still won't guarantee a parry? you can stack it to high heavens but if there is even a 20% chance to miss people will disregard it in favor of Crit, Det and Sks. even so concidering to get that kind of return on the rate would require a massive amount of parry to get say an 80% parry rate, the amount of other secondaries as the alternative would still far outweigh it. aside from all of that parry suffers from another side effect, threat. yes we can all say oh but parry could increase DMG but that is a downright lazy design and i would rather the design team focus attention on a better fix to the problem.
    Personaly the best design i have played when it comes to tanks was dare i say it Swtor, shit game but atleast they thought about passive tank mitigation.
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  9. #19
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    Hazel Korhonen
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Fue View Post
    Theres really only one fix for this. They need to fix parry.
    It doesn't need fixing. If tanks going to Midas normal are still wearing Slaying accs then they're gonna die the moment the boss has hate on them.

    I agree that Parry could use a buff, but the people going full-Slaying aren't gonna get anywhere.
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    Last edited by Fernosaur; 03-02-2016 at 07:08 PM.

  10. #20
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    Yami Bayushi
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JustalGalkus View Post
    Lets face it. Any tank worth his salt isn't going to be using slaying for any reason. the VIT has too many pluses to be casually discarded in lieu of some minor DPS increase which to be honest is complete shit now regardless of what you do.
    I can't like this hard enough, I'm so happy to see VIT is king again.
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