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    Quote Originally Posted by Estellios View Post
    It will take less leather to actually make a finished product by a good margin. You still come out ahead for already having it but it won't be that big a deal for people doing it after.
    how do you figure? now 1 skin gives you 5 synths....after it gives you 2. i'm not sure what math you are using but 5>>>>>2

    you take 1 skin now and you get 1 synth to make the 4 leathers and you turn around and use those 4 leathers individually.......that is 5 synths.

    after you take 1 skin and turn it into 1 leather on the first synth and that is only 1 synth .... that adds up to 2.

    the whole point i made was that before if you got x number of synths off one item then you will need to complete x number more synths to make up for the difference. when doing low level synths such as yarn when you are making like a cowl if you are high enough to make the cowl you get no sp off the yarn. that is extra synths for no sp so you take extra mats and extra time to get the same amount of production.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    how do you figure? now 1 skin gives you 5 synths....after it gives you 2. i'm not sure what math you are using but 5>>>>>2

    you take 1 skin now and you get 1 synth to make the 4 leathers and you turn around and use those 4 leathers individually.......that is 5 synths.

    after you take 1 skin and turn it into 1 leather on the first synth and that is only 1 synth .... that adds up to 2.

    the whole point i made was that before if you got x number of synths off one item then you will need to complete x number more synths to make up for the difference. when doing low level synths such as yarn when you are making like a cowl if you are high enough to make the cowl you get no sp off the yarn. that is extra synths for no sp so you take extra mats and extra time to get the same amount of production.
    but with that one skin you're making a finished product that you can sell or use for materia purposes. This is going to revive the market again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lenn1 View Post
    but with that one skin you're making a finished product that you can sell or use for materia purposes. This is going to revive the market again.
    i didn't say a word about the market. with those same 4 leather you could have done the same thing. the only thing i said was that i was glad i capped my crafts beforehand and feel sorry for the ones that hated it before because it'd take long to cap after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    i didn't say a word about the market. with those same 4 leather you could have done the same thing. the only thing i said was that i was glad i capped my crafts beforehand and feel sorry for the ones that hated it before because it'd take long to cap after.
    Before you were making mats that you vendored to an npc for almost nothing. Now that you are capped you will buy the gear i make to level materia and with that money i'll buy more leathers to make more gear. What im trying to say is that the leveling process should pay for itself instead of making thousands of useless mats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lenn1 View Post
    Before you were making mats that you vendored to an npc for almost nothing. Now that you are capped you will buy the gear i make to level materia and with that money i'll buy more leathers to make more gear. What im trying to say is that the leveling process should pay for itself instead of making thousands of useless mats.
    yes, i see where you are coming from. you don't want to look at the other end though. i did not say it was bad for the economy and i did not say that the gear will not be used. all i stated is that it will take longer post patch to reach cap than it did beforehand unless the sp is drastically changed.

    nothing at all of what you have said has changed that fact. if it takes even twice the amount of materials and synths it will double the length of time to reach cap. the only way it would not is if they doubled the sp in that scenario which is exactly what i said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    yes, i see where you are coming from. you don't want to look at the other end though. i did not say it was bad for the economy and i did not say that the gear will not be used. all i stated is that it will take longer post patch to reach cap than it did beforehand unless the sp is drastically changed.

    nothing at all of what you have said has changed that fact. if it takes even twice the amount of materials and synths it will double the length of time to reach cap. the only way it would not is if they doubled the sp in that scenario which is exactly what i said.
    I completely understand and i was only saying it will revive the market. Just because someone quotes you it doesnt mean they disagree with you lol.
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