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  1. #1991
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    FebLalah's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    17
    Character
    Feb Lalah
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 52
    I ran Stone Vigil (Hard) the other day and it was my first time doing that dungeon as a WHM, I was paired up with a friend so we got two randoms. I'm in a cutscene and my friend reminds me to say that I'm new to this dungeon, which I do and the tank was like "We were hoping for that" and I think it was either the other DPS or the tank that said "Use protect, big pulls." And I'm just like what.

    We PROCEED to wipe about 5-6 times, because they were rushing and getting pulls before I could heal them. Once the tank dies, everyone dies and the DPS was pulling who was a black mage instead of the tank dying - so I'm switching between healing the DPS and the tank. It was very stressful and even before we get to the final boss, we wipe some more. I even asked at one point for them to slow down please, and the DPS decides to be a idiot and keeps doing a ready check throughout the rest of the dungeon.

    I was SO close to quitting this dungeon because of how frustrating this was and by the time I was ready to quit, we were at the final boss and I just stuck through with it. It was my first time experiencing something like that, I guess I'm just glad I was getting frustrated and it wasn't boiling over to me being upset.
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  2. #1992
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    LunarOath's Avatar
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    Apr 2015
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    Ul'dah
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    10
    Character
    Eternia Luminos
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    I ended up getting a que for a dungeon in progress for Qarn last night while leveling my alt. Okay, no biggie. First thing I walk into is the other dps telling the tank to take smaller groups because the tank was losing aggro. Oh no, I think to myself.

    I started running to the group. I noticed we lacked a healer. Fine, whatever. I can wait. Then I notice something odd. This tank was a Gladiator. Oh dear. No wonder they can't keep aggro. I almost left. I knew I walked into a train wreck. But instead of leaving, I decided I wanted to see how things would play out. I had time. So the first thing I do is start giving some advice to the Gladiator. I explain to them that it's probably hard to hold aggro because at this level, she should be a Paladin and as a Paladin, she would have a stat boost from having a job class. So I start giving her advise on tanking and explain to her to do her class/job quests, etc. We get a healer right as I'm done explaining and go. Continuing in post #2
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  3. #1993
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    LunarOath's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Eternia Luminos
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    The poor Gladiator can't hold aggro. She knew what her skills were though. I saw her flashing, shield lobbing, etc. But because she was a Gladiator, she could not hold aggro. We all ended up continuously ripping aggro from her. I ended up tanking quite a few of the enemies and the whole second boss fight. By the end of the dungeon, the healer immediately left before I could even blink. I stuck around to explain to the tank she did everything she could and tried her best, but because she did not have her job crystal, she wasn't quite strong enough to hold aggro. I explained to her that once she was a Paladin, she would be able to hold aggro and I told her to take care. The other dps agreed with me and also told her good luck as well. I ended up getting commendations from the tank and other dps.

    I have heard horror stories of people getting jobless tanks before, but it had never happened to me until last night. At least I was able to help another player out and she appreciated it.
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  4. #1994
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    Heliantheae's Avatar
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    Nov 2015
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    Character
    Ekhi Ysengrim
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I got off work last night and decide to do my roulette before bed. So it's 1:30 in the morning and I'm a little tired and i get Titan HM. And it's been awhile since I've done and even longer since I've done it as a NIN. The first round I died during the second phase shift because I was standing too close to the edge when it fell off. There was that brief second of realization that I was standing on air; it was something out of Loony Toons. The second round went a lot better, made it to about 25ish% health. He tombed someone and I was breaking them out and he started casting Landslide. Where I was all I had to do was take a step to the left, but nope I decided to run between Titans legs. It looked like he farted me off the edge. They beat him and I decided I should do any more roulettes.
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  5. #1995
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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Character
    Auriana Redsteele
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarOath View Post
    The poor Gladiator can't hold aggro. She knew what her skills were though. I saw her flashing, shield lobbing, etc. But because she was a Gladiator, she could not hold aggro. We all ended up continuously ripping aggro from her. I ended up tanking quite a few of the enemies and the whole second boss fight. By the end of the dungeon, the healer immediately left before I could even blink. I stuck around to explain to the tank she did everything she could and tried her best, but because she did not have her job crystal, she wasn't quite strong enough to hold aggro. I explained to her that once she was a Paladin, she would be able to hold aggro and I told her to take care. The other dps agreed with me and also told her good luck as well. I ended up getting commendations from the tank and other dps.
    Just becoming a Paladin won't make a big difference in holding aggro. Paladins don't get their tank stance until level 40. Granted, the extra damage done while using Sword Oath would help a bit with holding aggro, but not all that much.
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    Last edited by MistakeNot; 02-28-2016 at 05:01 AM.

  6. #1996
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    Highwilds's Avatar
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    Character
    Drei Rael
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 80
    Entered Ravana EX with pre-made 6 man party, 2 from duty finder (healer and a dps). 5 of us were new, but we were skyping through it nicely. After first wipe, I swiftcast stoneskin 2, and then next to it is protect. But since it was late night with tiredness, instead of clicking protect, I clicked Aero 2 that was next to protect on the other side (note: it's not there anymore ). I had Ravana as target to get him as focus target and noticed the cast too late. Ok, I ninja pulled, fun! We laughed at it in skype and continued normal. I casted protect right after, no problem.

    Then I started noticing my mp was draining quickly and our other healer was just standing there doing nothing. When the first part of the wall broke, the healer ran straight to it and jumped down, causing us a wipe.

    Reason of the other healer's behaviour: "I wasn't ready." Naturally that lighted up a discussion in party and we got good laughs.

    We cleared Ravana EX on our next DF try.
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  7. #1997
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    Crysten's Avatar
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    Mar 2012
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Crysten Kimura
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    A8 - hit enrage 3 times because of a SMN pulling 288 DPS. Ruin III spam is the new meta now.

    But hey, Stone, Sky, Sea succeeded in making these kind of players want to improve themselves, amirite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

  8. #1998
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    Noxifer's Avatar
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    C'alih Tia
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Just becoming a Paladin won't make a big difference in holding aggro. Paladins don't get their tank stance until level 40. Granted, the extra damage done while using Sword Oath would help a bit with holding aggro, but not all that much.
    That is very true, but it will help even if just a tiny bit, and considering Qarn is level 35 said Gladiator isn't too far away from 40 anyway. It would be interesting to know what gear the Gladiator had; weapon is the biggest contribution to damage (and thus aggro), and is the first thing a tank should look at upgrading and keeping as upgraded as possible/affordable.

    Of course, it probably doesn't help that they've lowered tank damage over-all with 3.2, when they changed damage to ½Vit, ½Str. Sure, they improved tank stance aggro modifier, but that doesn't help the base classes =/


    Aaanyway, ran level 60 roulette yesterday with two friends (Me SCH, with a MNK and DRK). Ended up in the Arboretum with a random DRG. Things went okay, but slight disagreements started after the first boss when our dps asked the tank about preferences with the bees/walls, just so we'd know what the plan was. The DRG chimed in and requested that we burn the wall if possible. Slightly snapped response along the lines of "didn't ask YOU", which... wasn't really polite either, even if it was followed up with a "the tank's the one who'll die if things go wrong, that's why it's their decision" comment.

    Actually, the 'disagreement' had started a bit earlier, during the first boss fight, when the DRG refused to attack the adds, leaving our MNK to handle them all on his own. Not even when it was commented on did the DRG help, didn't even respond. So the first thing he said that run was the above-mentioned regarding the wall.

    Fast forward to the last boss, and... the whole "I will not attack adds, I will not dodge AoEs" mode the DRG was in became really frustrating. I think at one point he had six stacks of the Magic Vulnerability debuff. Trying to keep him alive meant I couldn't get to the MNK in time, who'd gotten two stacks (one from missing a Frond and one from the adds that didn't die quickly enough due to only one person attacking them). No matter: SwiftRes and Protect and continue.

    Once the boss is down, the DRG makes a rude comment about the 'rude MNK' and leaves before I have time to finish typing the same sentence, only switching 'rude MNK' to 'lazy DRG'.



    On a good note, we did an Ex roulette just after that. Zone in and see the DRG icon on our fourth member. I think we all had a few heartbeats of panic before we realized it was a completely different DRG. And a newbie to boot.

    It was a fun run ^^ We paused for a few moments to see if the DRG wanted any tips on the bosses, but otherwise just ran things normally. Mechanics didn't go perfectly (of course), and there were a couple of deaths, but we got the first boss down. The DRG apologized for dying and screwing things up, but we didn't really mind at all, and told him as much -- we've all been new at one point. After that, we all got a bit more talkative, making a few comments here and there.

    Wiped on the second boss, mostly due to me dying unnecessarily, forgetting to keep my own HP up as well as the others' ^^; But it's no big deal, so we just go back to the start and try again.

    To make things better, a couple of DRG gear dropped as well ^^ For some reason, it's always so much more satisfying to have gear for a random drop if it's their first run of the place. Probably because we can all relate to the feeling of getting new shinies.

    So yeah... The difference between those two DRGs... I'd take the latter over the former any day.
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    Last edited by Noxifer; 02-29-2016 at 07:31 AM.

  9. #1999
    Player
    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Lavender Beds, Ward 13, Plot 41
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    Character
    Hyomin Park
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 92
    I was playing on my alt character yesterday, and I impulsively decided I wanted to level up CNJ on her, so I queued for Sastasha when I hit 15. Didn't have to wait too long. The tank and one of the DPS were a premade, and they were obviously friends, throwing jokes at one another. Nothing wrong with that. Had a good laugh. Other DPS was a beansprout like my alt, but we weren't new to Sastasha.

    Anyways, the two friends decided to do a full run. Nothing wrong with that, except with all the joking we were in there for 40 minutes. 40. Minutes. Longest run of Sastasha EVER. I was getting a little annoyed because I had limited time to play yesterday, and just wanted to get some things done, but I dealt with it.

    And I was only after the CNJ gear, so I was just passing on other things, especially the other DPS stuff incase the beansprout DPS wanted them. And then the tank was like "You should roll on those. You can turn them in for seals."

    ...I'm well aware. I just didn't want to fill up my armoury chest with gear to exchange at this point. Since I hadn't really reached that point in the MSQ to even pick a GC for this charac. Just irritated me. But I was having a bad day, so that's probably why I got so irritated at all the "advice" I was being given. XD

    ADD: I did want to say that, the day before yesterday, I did Trial Roulette on my main. Got Ravana. We did pretty well until about half-way through, one tank and another DPS got knocked off. The remaining DPS were a MNK and a DRG, and the remaining tank kept telling them to use the LB since Ravana was almost dead. They didn't, and the tank kept shouting it, so I said screw it and got to use my Bard LB3 and killed him. :3 (Even though he was just about dead but still XD) And got 3 comms, too. I feel so happy when I get to LB in duties (and I'd never seen LB3 for Bard so I was pretty happy about that, too).
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 02-29-2016 at 10:18 AM. Reason: word limit & addition

  10. #2000
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    chrishanner's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Character
    Gemma Serafina
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 90
    I finally have one I can join in with!

    Just tried A8 for the first time. After we wiped pretty quickly, one blm called the other a noob. Then the arguing started, one healer joined in and sided with one of the blms, and throughout the whole second pull they were yelling at each other, about who was killing whose adds, and who was calling which orbs, and whose healing was awful.

    After the second wipe, a tank tried to calm them down, but someone called for an abandon. The other dragoon pulled and the motion went through after a bit more fighting.

    Some people really don't have a lot of patience!

    EDIT

    Just went in again and cleared it with an awesome group who were so nice and helpful to all the newbies!
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    Last edited by chrishanner; 02-29-2016 at 09:26 AM.

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