[spoilers]3.2 MSQ Discussion/Reaction thread

[Ayuhra]

Personally I'm still hoping for a Beast Tribe/Grand Company expansion to flesh out Eorzea with all the other regions that are sitting so close like Paglth'an...

If a Beast Tribe expansion let us play beast races I would be so for it.

[Kai_Lee]

Im a bit disappointed with 3.2, I like the story and where it is heading but 3.1 and 3.2 is all setup for whats to come. There is very little resolve or progression to anything storyline related.

[Alisa180]

Agreed, although Yoshida has made some comments that make it seem like 4.0 will not be following on from 3.x, so I expect 3.4 onwards to just be concluding the current plot with the Ascians/Zodiark/Hydaelyn rather than pushing us towards some new area like 2.55 did.

I've actually heard to the contrary. I went and dug up some relevant interview quotes.

Yoshida: Players enjoyed the story and leveling in 3.0, and patch 3.1 will aim to cover up many of the holes which became apparent. The main scenario will also begin to proceed towards 4.0, so please stay tuned.

Yoshida: This patch will extend the 3.X series and begin the gradual path to 4.0.

[CyrilLucifer]

Thinking about this a bit, looking for any opinions because I might be overthinking this.

Hydaelyn claims (and let's assume for the moment it's true, because we don't know otherwise) that Zodiark became power hungry and had to be banished.

But taking a step back, this makes me what?

I'm working on the following assumptions:
1. This occurred before creation.
2. Zodiark embodies the moon, which implies he's a crystal like Hydaelyn.
3. There was once balance between light and darkness, equal and opposite, rising and falling.

This might be a bit of a stretch here, but: He's a crystal. They're floating rocks - sentient rocks, but floating rocks. A rock just doesn't go take a float down the galaxy and decides he wants some extra power for breakfast.

How and why does a crystal become power hungry?

My guess would be that, perhaps, they weren't crystals all along and there might be more shared with the XI creation mythos than we originally expected - eg, it was the event of splitting the mothercrystal, among other things dealing with the Twilight God, in XI that eventually led to creation; alternatively, in XIV, it may have been the change to mothercrystal that allowed for creation.

The crystallization may actually be a side effect of the split. These Gods were not always crystals.

Or am I just totally crazy and have been thinking too much about XIV at work?

[Theodric]

Wasn't there a scene where Hydaelyn glowed red? Or am I misremembering? If so, perhaps Hydaelyn is no longer Hydaelyn...

I don't know. I don't buy Zodiark being irredeemably evil. His servants, perhaps, but not Zodiark. That there was once balance suggests that the scales can tip to either side...and perhaps Hydaelyn is weak as a result of screwing up and banishing Zodiark? I think there's much more at play here. That Hydaelyn isn't telling us everything. That we don't know what the WoL actually is worries me because I feel like we're building up to the point where we screw up immensely because we're so powerful as to be break something that should not be broken.

[CyrilLucifer]

I don't remember her glowing red at a particular time, but we did see a black and purple crystal that was either an empty Hydaelyn (which is honestly seeming less likely at this point, considering she's just as empty now and she was still blue) or Zodiark at the very end of 2.0.

That we potentially saw Zodiark through the Echo was never followed up on. Yet.

Though I agree. I don't think we know enough about Zodiark to make a value judgement on his mortality and "evilness" either way. We have a lot of questions and no answers - in the end, Hydaelyn (and SE) didn't really tell us anything at all. Though this is my bias speaking, I'm inclined to believe Lahabrea is in the right though and that Zodiark and Hydaelyn potentially shouldn't have ever been separated, as they were intended to be together. It's obviously causing some problems with reality, much like Altana in XI almost collapsed the multiverse in Her love for Her children.

But it's just so hard to say for sure because, as I said, what if it was the split in the first place that caused the crystallization that allowed for creation?

[Fenral]

I'm actually going to toss all my previous theories to the wind for this one. Ramuh said that in the age before man, light and darkness were as one. Think about it: if that's true, that split can't have created man, because it came after.

Mankind split the mothercrystal. Possibly even the Twelve themselves.

Too sleepy to follow this train of thought coherently at this time, but I think I might be on to something.

[Dualblade]

I'm actually going to toss all my previous theories to the wind for this one. Ramuh said that in the age before man, light and darkness were as one. Think about it: if that's true, that split can't have created man, because it came after.

Mankind split the mothercrystal. Possibly even the Twelve themselves.

Too sleepy to follow this train of thought coherently at this time, but I think I might be on to something.

Or, possibly, Hydaelyn and Zodiark were once one and the same, and THAT being, whatever it was, became power hungry. It eventually realized what it was doing in a moment of clarity, and split its "dark" half away in order to stop itself. The process also, essentially, "killed" itself while also making two new beings.

Essentially, Kami and Piccolo from DBZ, though with more power hunger causing the split.

[Frederick22]

Little offtopic.

Once you finished MSQ 3.2
Where are the ncp of the Scions? I dont find them anywhere ( Y'shtola, Thancred and Krile )

[MilesSaintboroguh]

in 3.1, i saw Y'shotla on the outskirts of Idyllshire. Try there?