Problem with Duty forced into Expansion Content...

[Lisotte]

What? Queues have been 40+ minutes frequently throughout the life of this game if you're a DPS.

[Niwashi]

I'm not a big fan of level boosting players to the last bit of content like WoW does... It just makes the community overall worse... At level 60 you shouldn't be a "new player" you should have a really good understanding of how the game works by the time you hit max level.

No disrespect but that attitude comes off as a little arrogant and somewhat elitist. I prefer communities that are actually more willing to help each other.

Now, I'd read that as the exact opposite. The game should be friendly and players (especially new players) should be able to get help and learn the game. But that's part of why they shouldn't be rushed to endgame, where less of that help will be available, since the content there is designed for players who already know the basics of their job and role. Players should stay in the early parts of the game long enough for that learning they need, and long enough for getting that help you want to encourage.

Of course, there's still learning going on at endgame, but at that point it's focused more on learning the mechanics of specific fights. Basic skill at your role and job is better learned during the low and mid-level content. There may be a bit of final tweaking when you first hit level cap, but that isn't where you should be learning the basics.

[Felis]

What? Queues have been 40+ minutes frequently throughout the life of this game if you're a DPS.

Not as a melee dps.
Maybe during the first year, but already before Ninja came ingame average queue time for MNK in the chaos server group (europe) was around 15 minutes.

[Geula]

Not as a melee dps.
Maybe during the first year, but already before Ninja came ingame average queue time for MNK in the chaos server group (europe) was around 15 minutes.

Unless I'm missing something here, the game doesn't care about types of classes, just their role, I can't swear that i've seen a party with 4 dps casters but 2 BLM and 1 SMN I did. In any case, the ARR content isn't played at all it seems, it's a weekend, I've queued at evening for what you see and I'm still where you see.

[Niwashi]

Unless I'm missing something here, the game doesn't care about types of classes, just their role

Sort of. It will try to mix both melee and ranged damage dealers into each party if they're available, but can suspend that rule when it needs to, so will sometimes make a party where all DPS are melee or all are ranged if there simply aren't any of the other available. (For this preference, it's looking at the range of their attacks, so Bards and Machinists get lumped together with casters rather than with the other DoW damage dealers.)

[Felis]

Unless I'm missing something here, the game doesn't care about types of classes, just their role, I can't swear that i've seen a party with 4 dps casters but 2 BLM and 1 SMN I did. In any case, the ARR content isn't played at all it seems, it's a weekend, I've queued at evening for what you see and I'm still where you see.

extreme primals and CT, not neccesary for MSQ and only part of the mentor roulette
for ex primals, try unsynched in the PF

[Sida]

Unless I'm missing something here, the game doesn't care about types of classes, just their role, I can't swear that i've seen a party with 4 dps casters but 2 BLM and 1 SMN I did. In any case, the ARR content isn't played at all it seems, it's a weekend, I've queued at evening for what you see and I'm still where you see.

None of the places you are queuing for are either in main quest, or in roulettes. At the moment people not running crystal towers is widely lamented thing, and most people rather get ex groups from PF than in DF. However either of those have nothing to do with OP s problem which was to get into content required to pass main quest. And that gets ran rather regularly outside of patchweek bubble.

[Darkside302]

Could not agree more with the OP. It severely deters the drive to level alts. There's literally 100 quests between original game and expansion, and even if you skip every video, sprint to every destination, and get into dungeons instantly...it still takes WAAAAAAAAY too long to get to the expansion. I could see you having to do it once for sure...but it's such a pain to do it all over again on alts. Honestly the grind from 1-50, and the grind from 50-60 are much less annoying than that stupid gap between 50 and expansion. Now this is coming from someone who has been playing all along, I can't even imagine how that must deter players who are returning to the game since the base game and just want to play the new expansion that they just purchased. It's very poorly designed and I hope they don't do this in the next expansion.

[mirta000]

Could not agree more with the OP. It severely deters the drive to level alts. There's literally 100 quests between original game and expansion, and even if you skip every video, sprint to every destination, and get into dungeons instantly...it still takes WAAAAAAAAY too long to get to the expansion. I could see you having to do it once for sure...

that's why you have multiple classes on the same character, can't join the same FC on alts and can't mail anything to each other. That's also why the sub that's alt friendly is more expensive. This game is simply not designed to have alts.

[Darkside302]

I have to have alts though, I'm co-lead in my FC and I'm Toon Link...so I always have to be the little guy with the green tunic . Sometimes I don't want to be lala so I needed an alt .