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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    You mean like any video game that offers an actual challenge and not just hand everything to you like a lot of AAA titles today?

    Whatever floats your boat I guess.
    Finally overcoming a major obstacle in a game after a few hours? Yeah, that's definitely rewarding and can be a lot of fun.

    But weeks? That's ridiculous and I know a lot of people aren't doing it for fun, which is what a gaming is supposed to be about. Hardcore raiding is toxic in a lot of ways.

    But don't be so thinskinned it's just one guy's opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    If you don't take time to better yourself as a player, you have no place in Savage to begin with.
    When majority of raid population is left with 1-2 fights for 6 months AGAIN, it doesn't do well for a game and sub numbers.
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  3. #23
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    Good news though, A6S was downed after I created this thread.
    It may be not as bad as I thought after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    When majority of raid population is left with 1-2 fights for 6 months AGAIN, it doesn't do well for a game and sub numbers.
    so, you going to ignore the guy who already posted that a6s has been cleared and group(s) are working on 7?
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    Player Kaze3434's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    Good news though, A6S was downed after I created this thread.
    It may be not as bad as I thought after all.
    surprise, you jumping to conclusions off of 4 DAYS.
    even better, the time stamp for this thread show it was made after the post on reddit for a6s being cleared.
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    Last edited by Kaze3434; 02-27-2016 at 02:54 AM.

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    it took my static weeks of frustration and 2 ppl leaving to clear A3s ....i was happy once we cleared it ? yeah , it was worth it? nope

    midas looks way more fun and a middle ground so lets wait and see.... we can say that content is easy or hard based around 0.01% of the playerbase (TOP players like Lucrezia) they are the outliers and u dont create content for them , because it would be impossible for the other 99.99 of the player base...wasted time and resources
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenFox View Post
    Finally overcoming a major obstacle in a game after a few hours? Yeah, that's definitely rewarding and can be a lot of fun.

    But weeks? That's ridiculous and I know a lot of people aren't doing it for fun, which is what a gaming is supposed to be about. Hardcore raiding is toxic in a lot of ways.

    But don't be so thinskinned it's just one guy's opinion.
    I'm not getting this at all. You're describing clearing something in the kind of timeframe I would expect for 'normal' difficult content, like the 'normal' mode Alex. Yet you're talking about Savage Alex. If you want the instant/quick gratification don't you already gain that from beating normal mode.

    Hell, maybe it's time to rename these modes.

    'Alexander: Normal' becomes 'Alexander: Training'

    'Alexander: Savage' becomes 'Alexander: Raid'

    The way you're talking you want all content to be beatable within hours. Even to me, that sounds like content with training wheels.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    The way you're talking you want all content to be beatable within hours. Even to me, that sounds like content with training wheels.
    No that's not what I meant but meh
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    Last edited by BrokenFox; 02-27-2016 at 03:00 AM.

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenFox View Post
    Finally overcoming a major obstacle in a game after a few hours? Yeah, that's definitely rewarding and can be a lot of fun.

    But weeks? That's ridiculous and I know a lot of people aren't doing it for fun, which is what a gaming is supposed to be about. Hardcore raiding is toxic in a lot of ways.

    But don't be so thinskinned it's just one guy's opinion.
    If it wasn't fun, I am sure people wouldn't be doing it. If the game wasn't fun, people wouldn't be on. Not following your logic.

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    When majority of raid population is left with 1-2 fights for 6 months AGAIN, it doesn't do well for a game and sub numbers.
    Well that is what you get when people keep asking for instant gratification content, it gets old and stale very fast.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    If it wasn't fun, I am sure people wouldn't be doing it.
    Haha not true

    (Not saying you can't have fun doing it but to suggest that everyone involved is doing it for *fun* is completely false. I've seen this personally, lol)
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