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  1. #11
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    Moonleg's Avatar
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    Moonleg Starborn
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    You shouldn't be using an AoE heal to heal two targets anyway except maybe in dire emergencies, as it's hella inefficient -- so as far as I'm concerned it was doing the right thing by not encouraging you to do so.
    Both DPS are hit with a powerful attack. You and the tank are fine. An unavoidable AoE hits in two seconds. What do you cast?
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  2. #12
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SerenAuditore View Post
    As far as I can remember the only thing that doesn't work on non party members is eye for an eye? Maybe medica II? Certainly nothing at lvl 15 though. Since the Hall of the Novice is for basic training I don't see a problem
    Though I guess target might be though.. At least on controller is kinda tough to target non party members . I usually have to sheathe the weapon to be able to circle through NPCs and such
    Use the other target filter option, where you switch with L1 + one of the right buttons
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  3. #13
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    Nekotee's Avatar
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonleg View Post
    Both DPS are hit with a powerful attack. You and the tank are fine. An unavoidable AoE hits in two seconds. What do you cast?
    I will use "Evil laugh while I watch them die in pain"

    DPS should never receive damage other than wide unavoidable aoe or force target on them (attack that ignore aggro)
    If they get cleave then they shoulnd't have kiss the tank
    They got an aoe then they should have move their Ass
    They spread damage then were supposés to hit only one of them then they shouldn't have make out during the fight

    And if a DPS got damage, give him a HoT and let him go
    A heal must focus on the tank and if possible DPS when he is around 90% and fine

    As a healer i'm not here to patch dps's Ass if they are LAZY
    The only exception is the Blm which DPS if do not move so I do accept if he take some damage
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  4. #14
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    Arrius's Avatar
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonleg View Post
    Both DPS are hit with a powerful attack. You and the tank are fine. An unavoidable AoE hits in two seconds. What do you cast?
    Cure/Physick on the DPS with the lowest HP, before and after the area attack.
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  5. #15
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    Atemi'a Arecis
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRogueX View Post
    So you want to learn how to play the Healer role. You get your healer to level 15 and go to the Hall of the Novice.

    You start going through the training. The very second training exercise is for you to heal multiple party members.

    Only, they're not actually in your party. So you can't practice changing targets with F1-Fwhatever, and you can't even practice changing targets by clicking on their name in the party bar. You also can't use abilities like Medica or Helios... because they're not in your party.

    Was this intended? I mean, it's not that big of a deal in the long run, but if you're really trying to teach new people how to heal to the maximum of their ability, you're sorta gimping them by not giving them access to all of their options.

    Note that Healer is the only role affected by this, due to the way its abilities function.
    It may be intentional. You don't want to encourage spamming aoe heals at a low level so making healers focus on swapping targets to single target heal the group might be a good thing. It might also be an oversight, who knows? Is there another training session that does have party members that take a lot of damage?
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  6. #16
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    Arrius's Avatar
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodPact View Post
    It may be intentional. You don't want to encourage spamming aoe heals at a low level so making healers focus on swapping targets to single target heal the group might be a good thing. It might also be an oversight, who knows? Is there another training session that does have party members that take a lot of damage?
    Medica spamming healers pre-tank stance are the worst.
    It should NOT be a solution to everything.
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  7. #17
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    worldofneil's Avatar
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    Scott Pilgrim
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonleg View Post
    Both DPS are hit with a powerful attack. You and the tank are fine. An unavoidable AoE hits in two seconds. What do you cast?
    Benediction on the one that has least health, tetragramaton on the other and start precasting a Cure II on the tank so it'll go off as the AoE hits (2 second cast time so should just have enough time to get it past the 85% cast point so I won't get interrupted).

    Then fix the two DPS that just broke again
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    Last edited by worldofneil; 02-26-2016 at 10:21 PM.

  8. #18
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    Miscreant's Avatar
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    Claire Delune
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonleg View Post
    Both DPS are hit with a powerful attack. You and the tank are fine. An unavoidable AoE hits in two seconds. What do you cast?
    The average GCD is 2.5 seconds, it's impossible to get a normal heal off in time.

    Anything OGCD is the answer, in my case lustrate.
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  9. #19
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonleg View Post
    Both DPS are hit with a powerful attack. You and the tank are fine. An unavoidable AoE hits in two seconds. What do you cast?
    Aspected Benefic on one of them, Essential Dignity on the other. Then heal the AoE after.
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  10. #20
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    Selli Noblesse
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonleg View Post
    Both DPS are hit with a powerful attack. You and the tank are fine. An unavoidable AoE hits in two seconds. What do you cast?
    What kind of 4 man dungeon has anything like this? Unless the DPS are standing in cleaves with the tank/avoidable AoEs, the damage in every dungeon is more than well spaced out enough to never need to AoE heal two targets. Never mind a dungeon a newbie is doing.

    I agree with Fynlar, a new player should not be learning to go for Medica as a quick-fix solution to heal two targets. This trial is aimed at people going into Sastasha for the first time. A CNJ using Medica every time one DPS rips hate off the tank to heal them both is just going to generate unnecessary aggro.
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