Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Whiteroom]

I haven't attempted Midas in the Duty Finder yet. I'm afraid of what I'll find there. I'd much rather go with friends. ;w;

Only a few runs in and it hasn't been bad. Only one derpy blm that wiped us. I find the NM raids get bad after about the time it takes the first wave to gear a class, then it gradually gets worse. It also seems to get worse the longer you wait after reset.

[Selli]

But even with months old content, the possibility exists of players experiencing it for the first time and will be learning it. Even with guides and videos, it takes first hand experience to get it down. People need to be patient and considerate.

Yes, but for the most part, when something has been out for a couple months, 75% of the time you can assume everyone has done it. Especially something you're going to be farming for weekly lockout items.

I found with A1-A4 normal that it took about 3 weeks for Aether parties to be consistently full of people who have done the fight prior.

[Sentaryuu]

Did Void Ark today as AST (my sister qued with me as PLD). On the first boss, apparantly a DRG had a problem how one of the ASTs was healing (there was only me in A and another in B). They first mistakenly said C who had no AST, then corrected to A which meant me. The DRG was in my party so not sure why they said it in Shout and not party, but whatever. I already had healed it once as AST and many times as SCH prior, so I knew what I was doing.

At the second boss, they actually tried to kick me. O.o My sister said in party that I was doing my job and not to kick me. My co healer said "barely" so apparantly they agreed with the DRG. Thankfully it did not go through. And the rest of Void Ark went hunky dory. There were no wipes and I did my job. There were plenty of times when the raid didn't even need much healing. And I do admit that I did die on the third boss on accident. I thought I got on the pad, but I didn't. xD At least someone raised me. So no idea why they thought that, but meh. Too bad nothing dropped that I wanted...

[Kosmos992k]

So, I've been stalled in story at Dusk vigil for a while waiting for my wife to be able to play again. I've been levelling alternate jobs, I main PLD and was keeping my PLD at the same level as my wife so she doesn't get left behind.

So, I'm on WHM, and Q for a Leveling Roulette. Insta-pop

....aaaaaaand.....it's Dusk Vigil!!!!!

Saywhatnow? An "oh Sh*t moment" occurs as the cutscene rolls....

I didn't realize you could get a dungeon you'd never even step foot in via roulette... My WHM is just barely lvl 52 and not brilliantly equipped, but I figured at least I get to watch what the tank does.

Well, I managed to keep everyone alive, even while adjusting to the rapidity with which the tank lost HP, not his fault, the mobs were just hitting hard. So, after the rust was gone, I was keeping things going, regen, cures, medica, esuna, a bit of DPS, the occasional double Holy and of course kept Shroud up as long as I could remember to. IIRC we got the 1st boss no problem, on the 2nd, we got it, but I died in the last moment of the fight and one of the DPS had fallen. It was my fault, I was standing in stupid as I fumbled around with my raise macro - it's not something I use frequently. I apologize and explain to everyone that this is in fact the first time I've run it. No one says anything...

So, we get to the final boss, and I wasn't familiar with the main mechanic and got caught out a couple of times. The last one, I was already playing catch up from OOMing earlier in the fight, got sucked into the middle and dumped out on the ground. While I'm trying to get others healed back up, I miss a marker and fall, Q the wipe. The only thing said was that I should have raised one of the DPS because we had LB available and they might have been able to kill the boss with it.

We go again, this time I do better on the main mechanic, and we blow through the boss swiftly. Thanks to all, great run from them. Commend the tank for putting up with my rusty healing. Job done.

So, why is this in this topic? Because the nightmare and reason to cry is not always someone else, sometimes it's us. I imagine that when I said "Hey folks, this is the first time I've been here, I was doing roulette and never expected to get this dungeon.", that there were three deep sighs and rolled eyes on the other sides of the screen. The thing is, I know I'm not the greatest healer in the world, mainly due to lack of practice, but I keep people alive, and get some DPS in as well.

But man, how would you like to get a healer new to the dungeon in level appropriate gear who says this is their first time and they were not expecting it either. I've seen other players rage quit in those circumstances, in under 3 seconds. I hope it was not too much of a nightmare though.

[Cnidarian]

Jumped into DR:Mentor the other day and wound up in Stone Vigil Normal. Didn't see any sprouts but it was a quick guess as to who the new player was. Lo and behold there was a carbuncle running around and I checked out the player, all they had leveled was 42 ACN, no other jobs even at 1. I politely asked if they knew about the advanced job quests that become available at level 30, their reply was essentially that they had no clue what I was talking about.

So, I started explaining how they could unlock 2 additional jobs which open up more spells and abilities and even give them new pets to use. I give a quick run down of both Scholar and Summoner to let them know of their options. This results in the person asking how they do that and after explaining that for SMN they needed THM at level 15 and for SCH they needed CNJ at level 15 their reply was "too much work, I'll never bother to do it".

Due to having the mentor crown on, I decided to just reply with "well, it is your choice if you want to take the time to unlock your advanced jobs. I would highly suggest you do take the time to do so as it will enhance your performance greatly. As you venture higher in level, you will most likely start to run into people who will kick you out of the party for not having either of those jobs unlocked"

They pretty much just shrugged it off and ignored the comment. As we are working our way to the first boss, I notice that his carbuncle was on auto and kicking mobs all over the place. Again, I calmly informed them that during a dungeon it is sometimes considered proper etiquette to place pets that have a push back onto manual control. Again, the reply was "too much hassle" and I just left it at that.

Now we are on the first boss and I notice that through most of the fight, the ACN was spamming Physick while barely doing any attack spells. After the fight is over, I mentioned that they didn't need to worry about using their cure spells and that they should focus on doing damage. To my surprise they actually asked why and I replied that as an ACN, they were taking the role of a damage dealer and that the healer of the group was responsible for healing everyone and keeping them up. Their reply "that's too much work to worry about what others are doing, I'll just keep playing how I am".

Again, I decided to just leave it alone and let them do what they wanted for the rest of the run. Once we killed the final boss and the ACN left, the tank in the group stuck around and commented on the fact that they can't believe how patient I was when dealing with the ACN and that they would have tore them a new one after the first comment about unlocking SMN or SCH being too much of a hassle.

Hopefully, this person was one of the more rare players we will encounter running DR:Mentor. I honestly don't mind people learning how the play the game, but it took most of my patience to not blow up on the person after repeatedly being told that they essentially couldn't care less about advice or how to improve at the game on even the most basic levels.

[NorthernLadMSP]

And that's why, even though I have met all requirements to be a mentor, I will never do it. I don't have the patience for that. I applaud you for that!

[Paladinleeds]

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Crikey, I'm in agreement with the tank. You have the patience of an absolute SAINT. I think I'd probably have managed myself, but barely. And if it had happened today while I was feeling ill... I would have roasted them over hot coals... My patience takes a severe hit when I'm feeling unwell...

[Aldebaran92]

Decided to try out the mentor roulette and got Shiva Extreme. The tank, who was new, kept running around with her, never staying in one spot and at one point turned her at the wrong time, killing most of us. We did try several times, giving tips, but no change. Besides, even if the tanking had been decent, the DPS was incredibly low, despite most people being synced from 60, we barely killed 2 of the adds. Too scared to try it out again for that meager reward...

[Whiteroom]

Yes, but for the most part, when something has been out for a couple months, 75% of the time you can assume everyone has done it. Especially something you're going to be farming for weekly lockout items.

I found with A1-A4 normal that it took about 3 weeks for Aether parties to be consistently full of people who have done the fight prior.

Not only this, but a couple of months down the road, the majority of people in a run will have much better gear than right now, allowing wiggle room for new peoples mistakes.

[birdy_reene]

my favorite as of late is in Quan when a Bee final stings the tank because he keeps running way ahead of the heal then calls the healer trash for him dieing XD