Removing Ranks for newer gear.

[Februs]

Greetings,

We understand that removing the PvP rank requirement on gear may dishearten those who worked on attaining those ranks to wear that gear specifically; however, considering that we're looking to get as many players excited about the upcoming release of The Feast, we decided to remove the rank requirement at this time. Hopefully this adjustment will further encourage new users to tackle PvP-related content ahead of Patch 3.21 in preparation of The Feast and also help to foster the PvP community.

I'm pretty sure most of us understood that this was intended to lure as many new players into PvP as possible, and I think we can all agree that it's a good enough reason for any change. That said, the concern that a lot of us have over this change is that there won't be a strong enough incentive to continue playing PvP. Getting people in the door is fine and dandy, but if you don't offer them a reason to stay then they won't. At the moment, hardcore PvP'ers have huge incentives to stick around because of league rankings, diamond league rewards, and a promising future for competitive tournaments, community organized events, etc. Casual players, on the other hand, have no real reason to keep queuing besides tome bonuses.

This change is not necessarily bad and is being implemented for a very good reason, but, by itself, it is not enough for a sustainable PvP community, especially because the change is purely cosmetic. The Morale stat is useless, and PvE gear easily competes with PvP gear. So, this change is really just window dressing. If Morale actually applied to PvP, then this change would have made more sense.

[Destyno]

Greetings,

We understand that removing the PvP rank requirement on gear may dishearten those who worked on attaining those ranks to wear that gear specifically; however, considering that we're looking to get as many players excited about the upcoming release of The Feast, we decided to remove the rank requirement at this time. Hopefully this adjustment will further encourage new users to tackle PvP-related content ahead of Patch 3.21 in preparation of The Feast and also help to foster the PvP community.

then put 4vs4 not synchronized? I totally sure pvp players demanding the release of moral

[Februs]

then put 4vs4 not synchronized?

Or just re-implement Morale. No one can complain about PvP'ers having an unfair Morale advantage if we all have access to the same gear from the word go.

[Destyno]

Or just re-implement Morale. No one can complain about PvP'ers having an unfair Morale advantage if we all have access to the same gear from the word go.

It is not unfair because nobody will offer him rank 50

[Nektulos-Tuor]

You know, I wish people played pvp because it was fun. However if all you people say ranks are the only reason you played (aka: to show off and have an advantage over other players in some way.) then why are you pvping?

[Sirius-Khan]

So now instead of people in the Alliance announcing "Here for the tomes, dont care if we win" it'll be "Glamour and Tomes dont care if we win"

[Pibz]

You people.. "Boohoo i did a couple of hundred of Frontlines to get be able to use my glamour and others don't have to now"

Yeah so what, lots of people are annoyed by the fact they have to do hundreds of matches before they can even get to use a piece of glamour they want so, although they would like to get the glamour , and thus possibly get into pvp they say the hell away.

Nearly 2 years back i did way over a thousand matches , the vast majority of which solo queued, of Wolves Den and suffered through horrible queues at times (dem horrible tank queues) just to get to the mid 30s rank , when they introduced Frontlines people were able to do it in less than half the time through much easier means, i didn't give a shit about elitism of "But wahh they didn't go through what i did" at the time because it brought more people in, and the difference was much bigger because people with pvp gear were gods compared to ungeared plebs (lol), and neither should you if you really care about pvp.

Asking for morale to be introduced as even the slightest suggestion is completely atrocious, it's gone and it should never come back. (Unless it's something extremely mild, as say morale works but ilvl sync is 220 so it still wouldn't matter anywhere close to being significant)

[AshenStar]

You know, I wish people played pvp because it was fun. However if all you people say ranks are the only reason you played (aka: to show off and have an advantage over other players in some way.) then why are you pvping?

Players are playing for fun. But for fun players will not play extra hours per day - for that players need extra effort and for the extra effort they need extra reward. Reward and achieving your goals is much more fun then just playing for the sake of playing...

[AshenStar]

You people.. "Boohoo i did a couple of hundred of Frontlines to get be able to use my glamour and others don't have to now"

Yeah so what, lots of people are annoyed by the fact they have to do hundreds of matches before they can even get to use a piece of glamour they want so, although they would like to get the glamour , and thus possibly get into pvp they say the hell away.

There always gonna be unhappy players. No matter what SE do with the game, there always will be unhappy players. What SE ultimately struggles to do is to make the number of unhappy players as least as possible.
Back to your quot: players who are not planning to pvp a lot should be the least priority (altho, they shouldn't be ignored definitely).

[Nalien]

Greetings

Let me get this straight...

In order to make the Feast more appealing, you've removed the Rank restriction so people new to PvP can get the gear?

Are we just not aware that PvP gear effectively does nothing in PvP? It's a glamour trophy and nothing more. You know what has a much bigger impact on PvP? PvP Skills. I have stronger, more frequent PvP Skills than someone who is new to PvP. That's a very real advantage, and anyone new to PvP is going to look at that and feel discouraged; When they're fighting someone and their enemy has a stronger Recouperate, and gets to use it more often, they're going to be put off by that...

PvP gear doesn't have this effect at all. It was a Glamour trophy that said "Look at me, I PvP a lot!"... If you were going to remove anything, it should have been AP and left Rank 50 specific Glamours in place... AP will have an impact on fights, Glamours will not... All you've done here is leave the unbalanced aspect in place, and turned the gear from a real trophy into a participation award... Not that it was ever much else, but I'd rather have a participation trophy that requires you to actually stick to the game... Whatever though, the Diamond Rank gear is coming and that's a much better concept... Until you cave in to idiotic complainers once more and hand it out to everyone... Ugh...