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  1. #21
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    vigioX-Sun's Avatar
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    Vigiox Sun
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    Balmung
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    Miner Lv 90
    I never been interested in gil, I only like to work for my own things an help others that can't or don't like to craft, SE took that with this system...
    I don't see new players being able to buy the new items anytime soon.. since they selling way overprice we talking about the millions for something so cheap to craft,(some eso items an 1* gathering) yes the 3*...this is a welcome system for a new or casual player?, not even close..
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  2. #22
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    Mindy_Macready's Avatar
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    Mindy Macready
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    Lamia
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    As does the current system. Some people are unwilling to adapt to change, and therefore will be unable to keep up.

    It is a clear choice.

    Those who are willing to properly adapt will be the new true omnicrafters.
    People shouldn't be expected to level 3 alts to Heavensward and gear them for 3-stars in order to "adapt." That's the best way to alienate your casual crafting base, and your argument flies in the face of what Specialist was meant to be.
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  3. #23
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    Momomi Momi
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mindy_Macready View Post
    People shouldn't be expected to level 3 alts to Heavensward and gear them for 3-stars in order to "adapt." That's the best way to alienate your casual crafting base, and your argument flies in the face of what Specialist was meant to be.
    They aren't.
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  4. #24
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    Duuude007's Avatar
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Hyperion
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    Armorer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    They aren't.
    Exactly, specs aren't 'meant to be' omni-crafters, 'casual' players shouldnt have the time and resources to be a true omni-crafter.

    Endgame is not meant to be wholly accessable to the guy who pokes his head in for 30 mins a day.
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  5. #25
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    VonMeep's Avatar
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    Eliza Reinhart
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    Adamantoise
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    As does the current system. Some people are unwilling to adapt to change, and therefore will be unable to keep up.

    It is a clear choice.

    Those who are willing to properly adapt will be the new true omnicrafters.
    Adapt how? make alts characters for crafting? Please explain show me the steps on how to adapt? i am struggling here, even with other specialist being involved can't rely on them making it HQ, or even getting enough stats to craft the specialized item.
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  6. #26
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    Z'nnah Silverbane
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    Halicarnassus
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VonMeep View Post
    Adapt how? make alts characters for crafting?
    That's what my wife and I did, mainly using GC turn-ins and leves, with our mains crafting the turn-ins.

    Since our alts have their own L8 FC (with Medium house ) that is not the FC our mains are in, mailing the items back and forth was a minor pain, but since it was my wife and I doing it together, it was manageable. Took about three months I think.
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  7. #27
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    Eliza Reinhart
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    That's what my wife and I did, mainly using GC turn-ins and leves, with our mains crafting the turn-ins.

    Since our alts have their own L8 FC (with Medium house ) that is not the FC our mains are in, mailing the items back and forth was a minor pain, but since it was my wife and I doing it together, it was manageable. Took about three months I think.
    It's funny i do have an alt that i started leveling in crafting a long time ago didn't go that far lol. I am willing to adapt but i need help in how? What i should do? Me and a FC friend trying to progress but we are confused about red scrips to gather materials so we can craft items. Example getting purified coke to make a ingot.
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  8. #28
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    Katlyna's Avatar
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    Katrisa Ashe
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    Ultros
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    Leatherworker Lv 80
    The thing that I don't understand whatso ever of the people who support specialist is that nothing the specialist system does is inviting to newer crafters, with one exception they can do X which the core FC crafter does and not be overshadowed by them. But I don't hear this as the supporting point by ANY of the people who say the like the specialist system. Instead they claim a bunch of incorrect things (or don't say anything).

    I'm under the assumption the people not stating reasons as Mr. 2000's post eludes to, is they like the system because they win out because they're willing to create crafting alts. And that's just a piss poor reason to "support" this shoddy specialist system. Its so crappy these people don't bother to mention this little fact... and instead act snide and holier than though art.

    Sorry just annoys the poop out of me when a game which encourages you to NOT change characters, suddenly implements a whole system which does the opposite. That's really freaking logical... If SE really cared about this system then they would block alts from having specializations different than the other characters on the server. But clearly they don't... they're just too embarrassed to scrap the specialist system and tell us they screwed up.
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    Last edited by Katlyna; 02-25-2016 at 12:46 PM.

  9. #29
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    MomomiMomi's Avatar
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    Momomi Momi
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Katlyna View Post
    The thing that I don't understand whatso ever of the people who support specialist is that nothing the specialist system does is inviting to newer crafters, with one exception they can do X which the core FC crafter does and not be overshadowed by them. But I don't hear this as the supporting point by ANY of the people who say the like the specialist system. Instead they claim a bunch of incorrect things (or don't say anything).

    I'm under the assumption the people not stating reasons as Mr. 2000's post eludes to, is they like the system because they win out because they're willing to create crafting alts. And that's just a piss poor reason to "support" this shoddy specialist system. Its so crappy these people don't bother to mention this little fact... and instead act snide and holier than though art.

    Sorry just annoys the poop out of me when a game which encourages you to NOT change characters, suddenly implements a whole system which does the opposite. That's really freaking logical... If SE really cared about this system then they would block alts from having specializations different than the other characters on the server. But clearly they don't... they're just too embarrassed to scrap the specialist system and tell us they screwed up.
    I have five alts all at level 50 with MSQ completed up to 2.0. I've had them there for a long time. It wouldn't take me much more effort to get them to level 60 in crafts.

    But they're staying there. I don't support this because of alts. I support this for the reasons I've stated. I like the system for what it is.
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  10. #30
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    Lorglath's Avatar
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    Lorglath Gilmore
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Yup, im done with crafting. Those of you who like specialist recipes only might not see a problem, but this was supposed to bring more people into it. I have not seen one person pick up crafting because of it, only stop.
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