Are there more tanks playing now?

[RecklessLion]

I'm neutral about the whole dps and tanks being boring again. I'm happy because a lot of players made Warriors look bad due to their large dps as tanks and forgot that mitigation was part of being a tank or keeping aggro not just dps stance and scream "dps is life as tanks". At the same time life as a tank became boring. Never had trouble with emnity now it's like meh tank stance is only good for aggro and go back to dps stance to get that rush. To actually use cd and see the mitigation. I mean it help because healers can now dps which is better when their damage is added I guess. The tank role is easy.....usually easy turns into boring.....which will eventually mean longer Qs

[Blitzace]

Hold up, "Healers can now dps" ? I'm sorry i never had a problem pumping out 500-700 DPS with full STR tanks.
This change honestly. Is just bs, Just baddies crying that they get outdamaged by a tank.

Won't make me stop playing PLD. Still love the job, But holy shiz, Don't pretend like healers couldn't DPS cause of STR tanks. Even with this change with tanks having 20k+ HP Wanna bet more than half of the healers will still fiddle their thumbs waiting to overheal us when we get hit once?

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Hold up, "Healers can now dps" ? I'm sorry i never had a problem pumping out 500-700 DPS with full STR tanks.
This change honestly. Is just bs, Just baddies crying that they get outdamaged by a tank.

Won't make me stop playing PLD. Still love the job, But holy shiz, Don't pretend like healers couldn't DPS cause of STR tanks. Even with this change with tanks having 20k+ HP Wanna bet more than half of the healers will still fiddle their thumbs waiting to overheal us when we get hit once?

^ Honestly, I'm not a main healer. My healer's barely i190 at best, and even then, I had 0 problems spending 3/4 of a run in cleric stance and putting up all the DPS I could. That's not to say I enjoyed it, but it was no problem. At all.

[RecklessLion]

Hold up, "Healers can now dps" ? I'm sorry i never had a problem pumping out 500-700 DPS with full STR tanks.
This change honestly. Is just bs, Just baddies crying that they get outdamaged by a tank.

Won't make me stop playing PLD. Still love the job, But holy shiz, Don't pretend like healers couldn't DPS cause of STR tanks. Even with this change with tanks having 20k+ HP Wanna bet more than half of the healers will still fiddle their thumbs waiting to overheal us when we get hit once?

Maaaaaaaan before the nerf I read alot of how healers couldn't enjoy the game because they're pressed to heal. Now it shouldn't be. But I'm learning there's all sorts of baddies crying because they can't be lazy and great at the same time. It is what it is I suppose

[Hierro]

Why would there be more tank players? If you wanted to build yourself as a brick wall tank, the choice was there. If you wanted to get more invovled and take an active role within the party by becoming a notable catalyst, that choice was also there. People went tank because of those choices. Now that one choice is ultimately pushed aside, why would there be MORE people coming in? To think otherwise is very illogical.

"Oh boy, now I can be a lazy punching bag AND feel good about being incapable of high dps because we don't have a choice anymore! Golly, now those tryhards will stop making me feel bad about my own incompetence."

Doesn't sound very realistic, right?

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Doesn't sound very realistic, right?

Sad thing is, now that tanks aren't gonna be motivated to play better, more people are gonna play it... so they can be lazy and get carried.

[Blitzace]

Maaaaaaaan before the nerf I read alot of how healers couldn't enjoy the game because they're pressed to heal. Now it shouldn't be. But I'm learning there's all sorts of baddies crying because they can't be lazy and great at the same time. It is what it is I suppose

What do people expect as a healer honestly? I've had healers blatently not healing me when i do big pulls. Not even trying i'm saying.
And when i do small pulls they overcure me, Stand afk for 10-15 seconds. overcure. Stand afk again. I mean, Do people just want an easy time? When i tank i pull as much as i can and i feel the healer can handle(Unless he tells me any different)
When i heal i expect the tank to do the same(If he feels comfortable with it) And i'll make sure i won't stand still. Don't need to heal? DPS mode activated.

No offense to the great healers/tanks i've had the pleasure to be running with obviously. Just stating the bad seeds atm.

[Billeffingmurray]

Sad thing is, now that tanks aren't gonna be motivated to play better, more people are gonna play it... so they can be lazy and get carried.

Nobody is carrying this tank, but I did have an arboretum run go bad today that I definitely could have saved yesterday.

[SpookyGhost]

Going from OP to not OP does make you feel significantly weaker, I'll admit. I don't really have any problems with it though, still maximizing my DPS and CD usage as hard as I can - specific number ranges don't really bother me as long as I can hit the top of whatever percentile I'm in.

Also I dunno which topic this was covered in, so I'll just throw it in here, but I've had 0 issues with enmity. I've tanked out of tank stance multiple times, in dungeons and even in A5 between the concussion thing. If you are losing aggro, it's a player problem, and your bad enmity optimization was likely just being carried by higher AP. To be fair, though, I am speaking as a WAR who's highest potency combo is their aggro combo... but I also just alternate Path and Eye after my opener for content I don't know anything about... so...

[Galgarion]

Why would there be more tank players? If you wanted to build yourself as a brick wall tank, the choice was there. If you wanted to get more invovled and take an active role within the party by becoming a notable catalyst, that choice was also there. People went tank because of those choices. Now that one choice is ultimately pushed aside, why would there be MORE people coming in? To think otherwise is very illogical.

"Oh boy, now I can be a lazy punching bag AND feel good about being incapable of high dps because we don't have a choice anymore! Golly, now those tryhards will stop making me feel bad about my own incompetence."

Doesn't sound very realistic, right?

It's a 20% cut. You're going to get back to your old numbers when you finish collecting the next tier of gear. Nothing's really changed at all.