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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    Little too much fantasy happening in your fantasy game there, bud.

    Can't recall that happening ever. If that's an issue you ran into, it probably had more to do with i-level differences and less with who was wearing VIT or STR accessories.
    Gotta face the facts that with equal skill and gear a str tank walked all over a vit tank in agro generated and DPS.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    As a vit-tank, I will miss the days of taking over for the remainder of the Void Ark run after strength tank #52693 ran out of health while trying to tank an easy boss. Dead = 0 DPS.
    lolwut?
    The damage output of the bosses in Void Ark is so low that if a tank dies, it's either:
    1) They're dumb and stood in crap (e.g. Cu's barf)
    or
    2) Healers' fault

    It's not gear related.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea View Post
    Gotta face the facts that with equal skill and gear a str tank walked all over a vit tank in agro generated and DPS.
    Oh, there is no doubt that if both tanks are trying their hardest to hold onto mob, the one stacking STR is going to win (assuming comparable gear). That goes without saying.

    However, that is absolutely never an issue for a VIT tank, not unless the tank stacking STR is intentionally trying to steal threat away. That certainly doesn't happen when they're "in a DPS stance".. that only happens when that tank (STR, VIT or whatever) is being a grade-A twit and not working as a team.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    As a vit-tank, I will miss the days of taking over for the remainder of the Void Ark run after strength tank #52693 ran out of health while trying to tank an easy boss. Dead = 0 DPS.
    Another sadly mistaken thread poster. Can you Debbie's please all leave the thread with your lame attempts at bad jokes about situation that involved bad tanks, not str tanks.

    Thank you
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    Another sadly mistaken thread poster. Can you Debbie's please all leave the thread with your lame attempts at bad jokes about situation that involved bad tanks, not str tanks.

    Thank you

    STR tanks are bad tanks
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUltimateSeph View Post
    STR tanks are bad tanks
    care to explain?
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    Oh, there is no doubt that if both tanks are trying their hardest to hold onto mob, the one stacking STR is going to win. That goes without saying.

    However, that is absolutely never an issue for a VIT tank, not unless the tank stacking STR is intentionally trying to steal threat away. That certainly doesn't happen when they're "in a DPS stance".. that only happens when that tank (STR, VIT or whatever) is being a grade-A twit and not working as a team.
    While this is indeed true, i always let the VIT tank MT.... because whats the point of me tanking when his DPS would be abysmal anyway. However, when I'm sitting there using only SP and SE on my DPS rotation and VIT PLD is sitting on the mob spamming only RoH cause hes so afraid of losing hate, then that is the ultimate facepalm. Not doing your own DPS rotation because your afraid of not being useful is completely silly and I see it almost every single time I'm in that godforsaken Void Ark.

    Maybe you don't do this, but I see it an awful lot, and sadly it's primarily PLD's that I see doing it. It makes me sad because I mained PLD for a long time before 3.0 when I was requested to switch. Playing defensively and outputting DPS are not mutually exclusive situations in FFXIV.
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    Another sadly mistaken thread poster. Can you Debbie's please all leave the thread with your lame attempts at bad jokes about situation that involved bad tanks, not str tanks.

    Thank you
    Yes, I got it. ; ) Every STR tank in this thread is an example of tanking perfection. All the ones that die horribly are just bad.

    If there are suddenly a whole lot less "bad tanks" starting tomorrow, we can revisit this discussion and ask why that is.
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  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea View Post
    care to explain?
    Wow like a hungry shark. Nah not really. I shouldn't have to.
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrea View Post
    Im curious if people in this thread hate all str tanks or just the bad ones.
    I'm going to assume that we're automatically talking about the baddies. It's just more common to come across bad str tanks than vit tanks, in my personal experience. /shrug
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