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  1. #81
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    Lilith_Merquise's Avatar
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    Scuro Merquise
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    Sargatanas
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Voulgar View Post
    this honestly just makes me irritated, with every other job/class they will be getting more damage getting more gear, tanks are going to be doing less damage than current, which means holding agro will be harder, and there will be no actual feel of progressing and feeling like you get stronger with the gear. It sucks. I enjoyed str tanking a lot, really pushed the boundries between me and my healers during A3s and A4s but oh well we got our clears while it was still possible.
    That's why you're getting native enmity boosts in most abilities. Holding hate will be fine, and if you wanna do DPS, play a DPS class.
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  2. #82
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Voulgar View Post
    this honestly just makes me irritated, with every other job/class they will be getting more damage getting more gear, tanks are going to be doing less damage than current, which means holding agro will be harder, and there will be no actual feel of progressing and feeling like you get stronger with the gear. It sucks. I enjoyed str tanking a lot, really pushed the boundries between me and my healers during A3s and A4s but oh well we got our clears while it was still possible.
    They have stated that enmity modifiers are going to be adjusted - and it's also in the patch notes:

    Shield Oath Use will no longer interrupt weaponskill combos.
    Damage penalty has been reduced from 20% to 15%.
    The amount of enmity generated has been increased.

    Grit Use will no longer interrupt weaponskill combos.
    The amount of enmity generated has been increased.

    Warrior Defiance The amount of enmity generated has been increased.
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  3. #83
    Player Iagainsti's Avatar
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilith_Merquise View Post
    That's why you're getting native enmity boosts in most abilities. Holding hate will be fine, and if you wanna do DPS, play a DPS class.
    You're really uninformed and really have a narrow minded view on what str tanking was, or maybe just don't know anything about the way a good tank performs in Ffxiv, please leave our thread
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  4. #84
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    Natarle Hawke
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    "Goodbye strenght tanks
    Though I never knew you at all
    Because I main a Paladin
    And my dps was always small
    You called out to our static
    And carried us through dps checks
    Now you belong to patch nerfs
    We should press X to pay respects

    And it seems to me you lived your life
    Like a candle in the wind
    Always dancing through stances
    Because a scrub joined in
    And your footsteps will always fall here
    Along Eorzeas's greenest hills
    Your candle's burned out long before
    Your legend ever will"

    Rip in pieces my dearest WAR offtank

    よしだあああああああああ!!!
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  5. #85
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    Tolby Seyfert
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    Cactuar
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    Blacksmith Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilith_Merquise View Post
    if you wanna do DPS, play a DPS class.
    Tell SE to make OT more important than 10-25% of a fight or recovery only. OT is pretty much a DPS job when not handling adds or extra mechanics. They bring alot of potential to overall raid DPS.
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  6. #86
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    lol I play WAR and DRK, I know how it works, but that's not how it was intended to work. And until SE wakes up and realizes hybrid classes are fun and making classes do more then their square peg. That's how it is and how it will be. Also I'm not uninformed which is why @Kaurie listed what I was saying, where as you have said nothing to why I am such.

    Also true, but you still will be able to DPS, it's not like you're going to lose all your DPS and deal 10 damage. You just won't be able to OT Fell Cleave and compete with subpar DPS players. Also they've mentioned that going forward strict DPS checks will not be a thing, therefore the DPS Meta is dead. More reason why it's not necessary for tanks to put out fat numbers, and if you go back and do old Alex Savage, you'll have overgeared it easy and will have 0 difficulty meeting DPS checks.
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    Last edited by Lilith_Merquise; 02-23-2016 at 07:36 AM.

  7. #87
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    They probably realize str tanks have fun.
    But they want to appease the casual crowd first and foremost - meaning healers that can't deal with str tanks.

    Ideally, everyone would have gear options like tanks did, but instead we're going the opposite direction.
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    http://king.canadane.com

  8. #88
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    Meli San
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    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    "STR Tanks" Haha! Good one!
    Get some better DPS, you didn't need to carry them if they were good.

    Also on a side note, where was that "Ice Mage" everyone always complained about, but never proved to exist?
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  9. #89
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    Aaliyah Rose
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    I feel like this next raid patch is going to end up looking like those Coil T7 days...you can do all the DPS you want, but that doesn't help if you can't do mechanics.
    DPS won't be as necessary, which is why they are changing the meta. This will require even the bad STR tanks to learn their job more and to know what their doing.
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  10. #90
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    Robas Kebas
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    Odin
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    STR, (s)he hates losing the DPS rankings to WAR
    Uhh No? Most of the time I'm top DPS in anything I do, so don't make assumptions it just makes you look idiotic when you know nothing about the person. When I finish A3 Savage with 1200 so I think I do pretty good compared to most people out there.
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    Last edited by Remus; 02-23-2016 at 07:56 AM.

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