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    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    This is an excuse. You know... something a person says to avoid blame? The game already has a huge dragoon 200 meters in size that you do battle with. His name is Vishap and you find him in "The Steps of Faith."

    Also it isn't an excuse, with the context of the interview, there is nothing to be excused. Yoshi P is talking about the future of the game, and necessary steps in the future in order to keep up with MMOs of the future (he referenced EQN as an example)

    I've learned one thing, the devs are masters at coming up w/ excuses. Albeit silly ones.
    Yes and no, vishap is only around 50 meters large, so yoshi p is talking about a mob 4 or 5 times bigger than vishap. SoF is also an instance, whereas a fate is open world, think about how bad a hunt is on ps3, now imagine that the hunt is a sky battle with a mob the size just described, starting to look like less of an excuse when you look at it like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Yes and no, vishap is only around 50 meters large, so yoshi p is talking about a mob 4 or 5 times bigger than vishap. SoF is also an instance, whereas a fate is open world, think about how bad a hunt is on ps3, now imagine that the hunt is a sky battle with a mob the size just described, starting to look like less of an excuse when you look at it like that
    I think we all agree Vishap is big enough. And I think we all agree "The Steps of Faith" would be the second worst open world FATE ever. The worst being the one you are suggesting. My point is, it's wouldn't be fun. People don't do FATEs we have now. The reason why were not getting it is it's bad game design.

    I'm trying to imagine a beast four to five times the size of Vishap. It could eat you and you'd be in a full size dungeon! And flapping it's wings would force everyone on the map to the next area!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    I think we all agree Vishap is big enough. And I think we all agree "The Steps of Faith" would be the second worst open world FATE ever. The worst being the one you are suggesting. My point is, it's wouldn't be fun. People don't do FATEs we have now. The reason why were not getting it is it's bad game design.
    I don't understand your point, I actually think it would be really cool, thanks for the patronising comment. The point of the quote is more about how as technology advances, hardware will need to be considered to do more things in the game, whether you like it or not, the Ps3 is a hindrance to the design of the game, and the freedom that they have with it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I actually think it would be really cool, thanks for the patronising comment.
    Your right, I've been a bit of an arrogant prick here. I'm sorry.

    Remember, somethings only cool the first time or two you see something. After that it quickly becomes stale. And open world content requires people to drop whatever they are doing and then go out of their way to participate. FATEs are basically just reward experience and some gil. Occasionally a minion or achievement, which only need to be obtained once. There's little incentive to do them.

    hardware will need to be considered to do more things in the game, whether you like it or not, the Ps3 is a hindrance to the design of the game, and the freedom that they have with it
    Presently the team lacks the freedom to design content intended for 8K resolutions. There are always limits.

    It's your job as a developer to work within the limits given to you to create your vision. You can get hardware to do whatever you want with the right software.
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