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  1. #11
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    Renault's Avatar
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    King Stefan
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Mutemutt View Post
    Mp cost was hardly an issue I think. I've spammed that spell for days on end it feels like and every once in a while it reminds me that I forgot to use LA and then I just mana draw. The numbers that really matter are how much it heals for.
    Must be frontlines, where the healing is pretty low and there's tons of downtime to regen your MP. The Feast will be similar to the Wolves Den, where damage is extremely high and there is no downtime. Sometimes it can be like healing through Ahk-Morns for 10-15 seconds straight, every 1 minute or so. Even with proper use of CDs, MP can run dry quickly as AST.
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  2. #12
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    Bravo Whiskey
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    Ravana
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Renault View Post
    It is not "1 button PVP" at all. I have 44 hotkeys that I use for AST pvp, not including food, pots, mount and target macros. I also use nearly all of those in any given match, except those over level 50. Come The Feast, I guarantee I will be using all of them.
    44? How even. I just counted...I have 36. Am I miss something useful, macro wise :O?
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  3. #13
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    King Stefan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pence View Post
    44? How even. I just counted...I have 36. Am I miss something useful, macro wise :O?
    Card Cancellation macros (for when you get useless shit like spire, sometimes spear), Attunement cancellation macro, focus target disable. theres a few more for targetting but wasnt counting those. Not sure what you might be missing
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  4. #14
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    Blitz Ace
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    And now they've made Nocturnal Sect useless in PVP, the one place it shined. I'll say it's good for balancing PVP but now Noct has been knocked down another peg... >w>()
    ^ And this is what happens when dev's listen to little whiny kids. AST was never OP in PVP. you could kill a AST With one or two people if you would actually use your brain & work together as a team *GASP* is that even possible for most?
    Don't LB a AST @100% Without getting him down alittle bit and stun him or what ever.

    Just bad melee's who expect a free kill with LB. Welp. guess SE cave'd in again. Congrats whiny kids.
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  5. #15
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 90
    How could they leave Astrologians so overpowered in PvP for so long?

    Really? They were making themselves and their allies immortal for almost a year and just getting nerf next week? What did they do in the past 7-8 months?
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  6. #16
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    Cat Man
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    Omega
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    Marauder Lv 30
    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzace View Post
    ^ And this is what happens when dev's listen to little whiny kids. AST was never OP in PVP. you could kill a AST With one or two people if you would actually use your brain & work together as a team *GASP* is that even possible for most?
    Don't LB a AST @100% Without getting him down alittle bit and stun him or what ever.

    Just bad melee's who expect a free kill with LB. Welp. guess SE cave'd in again. Congrats whiny kids.
    Just because there were ways to kill it and it wasn't absolutely and totally insanely OP doesn't mean it wasn't imbalanced specially for arena based matches.

    It was easier to play and harder to go against vs the other healers specially for newer players, which by the way we need tons of to make pvp healthy. Good change is good and i hope we get more and more frequent balance changes going forward.
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    Last edited by Pibz; 02-21-2016 at 12:21 AM.

  7. #17
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    Mutemutt's Avatar
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    Mumuki Muki
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    Leviathan
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Renault View Post
    Must be frontlines, where the healing is pretty low and there's tons of downtime to regen your MP. The Feast will be similar to the Wolves Den, where damage is extremely high and there is no downtime. Sometimes it can be like healing through Ahk-Morns for 10-15 seconds straight, every 1 minute or so. Even with proper use of CDs, MP can run dry quickly as AST.
    Sorry, my experience with wolve's den is matches rarely ever last longer than around 5 mins, but I see ast winning the 14 min+ matches too, so I can't say I'm suddenly worried about mp. And presumably, with this change, you'll want to use the move even less now
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  8. #18
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    Jz Ben
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    Ragnarok
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    Miner Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzace View Post
    ^ And this is what happens when dev's listen to little whiny kids. AST was never OP in PVP. you could kill a AST With one or two people if you would actually use your brain & work together as a team *GASP* is that even possible for most?
    Don't LB a AST @100% Without getting him down alittle bit and stun him or what ever.

    Just bad melee's who expect a free kill with LB. Welp. guess SE cave'd in again. Congrats whiny kids.
    The fact you say they arent OP in PvP then mention Lb'ing them tells me you only play Seal Rock. Lol.
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  9. #19
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    Geologo's Avatar
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    Character
    Leinas Kroma
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 90
    250 potency +5% pot by nocturnal stance + 65% shield = 433 pot between raw healing and shield
    cure potency 400

    and you can spam it while running and give a shield that for casters mean "I won't be interrupted till the shield is up"

    To me it is a good adjustment, not so hard because they touched exactly the problem,
    they didn't nerfed all the noct stance or a generical malus to astro, and so the revalued the Diurnal stance,
    that still is not weak at all.
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  10. #20
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    King Stefan
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    How could they leave Astrologians so overpowered in PvP for so long?

    Really? They were making themselves and their allies immortal for almost a year and just getting nerf next week? What did they do in the past 7-8 months?
    This here is the statement of someone who is bad at PVP.
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