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  1. #11
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    Sidra's Avatar
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    Sidra Swiftwind
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Yes, that it how it works. If they have 15k HP, they need 15k HP worth of healing done to them to remove the debuff. They do not need to actually be at 15k health. In raiding, its usually done at planned time and in coordination with Benediction. But with no WHM, or in lesser content as an emergency button, it's a pretty annoying survival ability.
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  2. #12
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    Galdous Tansarville
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by FinalWolf View Post
    They said will be adjusting all tanks so they MIGHT change how living dead works.
    Final wolf what manga did that picture come from? It looks familiar to me but I cannot place it.
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  3. #13
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    Syzygia Coahcuhhar
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Just throwing it out there, but regen ticks and self heals count towards the quota.

    Also a SCH isn't really worse off than the other two with planning. If you consider Lustrates as a 1.8K potency heal on a 1min CD (600*3 Aetherflow 60s recast) its actually arguably better than Bene/ED. Just requires planning, and honestly Holmgang and HG do as well. You're planning to ignore the tank for 6-10+ seconds and DPS.
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  4. #14
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    If we still talk about LD... how could anything be better than Benediction?... o.o
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  5. #15
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    Sida Bajihri
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    If we still talk about LD... how could anything be better than Benediction?... o.o
    By the cooldown time in this case, I think. Which actually raises a question. Living Dead reduces the DRK to 1 HP. Benediction heals them to full. Does it actually heal the exact amount they are missing? Or their actual health? What I mean is, if DRK is on LD and you use Benediction and no other heals come into the equation, do they leave 1 point short from getting cured from it?
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    Last edited by Sida; 02-16-2016 at 06:20 PM.
    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

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    Xyasreau Borlaaq
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 80
    One minor thing to point out even though it probably shouldn't occur considering how miniscule it is but;

    Benediction alone is not enough because it doesn't heal 100% of a DRK's HP while under walking dead.

    So for example, a DRK has a total of 15,000 HP and hits the walking dead status with 1hp left(health cannot go lower). Benediction will only cure 14,999 by itself making it 1 short from removing the walking dead debuff. Naturally more often than not this teeny tiny amount will be covered by HoTs and/or DRK's self heal (if he is in Grit using SE or bloodbath) but for those WHMs out there that leave the DRK with no heals save for a last second benediction be warned.


    Hello, my name is idiot.
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    Last edited by FallenWings; 02-16-2016 at 09:10 PM.

  7. #17
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    Baradaeg Ryssbhirwyn
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    Lich
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    Site? I thought bene would heal 100% of the targets Max life oO
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  8. #18
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    Sida Bajihri
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Legion88 View Post
    Site? I thought bene would heal 100% of the targets Max life oO
    Should be easy to test, get a friend whacked to half by something, bene them and see what number pops up for the heal. If you have the game at hand that is. If they were only in half, and the number is also way lower than their max health..
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

  9. #19
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    Lucidia Dreamweaver
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 70
    @FallenWings

    I remember this being the main complaint during the early days of Ravana Ex (Cheesing via LD), benediction -> still dead due to no more incoming damage to be healed by regen.

    However, I vaguely remember there was a patch that "fixed" this issue (I suspect just by simply changing the total HP you need to recover = Total HP -1) and there's no longer a complaint regarding this issue.
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  10. #20
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    Grimmjow Jaggerjaques
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    I do not main heals, but I do know the Bene hits the target for their total HP. The tooltip itself reads: "Restores all of a target's HP" This is done in a heal amounted to the current total HP of the target.
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