Healer and caster gear concern going forward

[AsahinaMyLove]

Man when 4.0 hits and ps3 is dropped I can't wait to see all the content they've been holding back. It's gonna be sick. Larger inventories, no instanced cities, no load screens, hundreds of gear with different looks, glamour wardrobe, man it's gonna be insane

XDDDD what are you dreaming at night? Nothing like that will happen

[Waeksyn]

Total Uniques:
Tank: 11
BRD: 4
DRG: 4
WHM/SCH: 3
BLM/SMN: 1
MNK: 2
NIN: 0

Thanks for the summary! Problem is, there is no job called "tank". Those are 3 jobs. Why should PLD look like WAR look like DRK?

There are gameplay and lore differences that should be reflected in the armor. PLD is a "classic" protector - formal plate armor. War is the savage berserker - hides, furs, other animal bits. DRK is, well, dark. Spiky, brooding, black on black.

That said, it doesn't bother me to have some duplication. What really annoys me is the focus on robes, long coats and other dangley bits.

[CyrilLucifer]

Thanks for the summary! Problem is, there is no job called "tank". Those are 3 jobs. Why should PLD look like WAR look like DRK?

And there are 5 jobs that use Caster/Healer gear.
See why this topic was made, now?

[Eidolon]

Thanks for the summary! Problem is, there is no job called "tank". Those are 3 jobs. Why should PLD look like WAR look like DRK?

That said, it doesn't bother me to have some duplication. What really annoys me is the focus on robes, long coats and other dangley bits.

I got lazy D: It's the same as typing out WAR/PLD. Retrospect: That woulda been easier. <_<

[AnaviAnael]

Man when 4.0 hits and ps3 is dropped I can't wait to see all the content they've been holding back. It's gonna be sick. Larger inventories, no instanced cities, no load screens, hundreds of gear with different looks, glamour wardrobe, man it's gonna be insane

I don't think it's officially been stated that PS3 support is ending in 4.0. Even if it does, I doubt the game is going to change as much as you think it will change. If they can get away with "white set is for healers and black set if for casters" they're still going to do it.

[Vinta]

What I want is Caster gear separate from Healer gear.

It would have been so much better having Shiva Caster gear and Phoenix Healer gear, but SE decided to be lazy again and giving 5 classes the same gear with a palette swap.

They can't acknowledge Phoenix exists without giving a source to fight it outside of where it comes from. Its existence is a spoiler.

[Vinta]

XDDDD what are you dreaming at night? Nothing like that will happen

They're just being satirical...

[HorseBoots]

Reusing models saves production time which lets employees work on more overall.

Tanks tend to get the most unique model meshes thanks to the fact that 1. All tank classes ever will just pull from the same pool of gear until the end of time and 2. Square Enix want it to be easy to visually show that Tanks are the heavy metal wearing punching bags that the role expects from them. DRG for the most part was usually getting their own sets of gear because DRG is the only current DPS in the game that is using "Scale" tier armor, which comes with higher physical defense than your average DPS. That doesn't change the fact that they have been recently reusing and slightly tweaking tank gear whenever it seems convenient.

Unfortunately for healers, they are still in the same gear category as casters, which means it's very easy and very convenient to just reskin some robes and call it a day.

Like I can guess it kinda sucks that tanks are always getting their own special snowflake gear, but reusing models is a design concession, and an unfortunate fact of life in terms of MMO development. And I for one would much rather have development be put into more actual gameplay than just to further advocate the perfect waifu-simulator.

[Dyvid]

New gears sets every 3 months? Yea, sooner or later you start running out of ideas.

[CyrilLucifer]

Like I can guess it kinda sucks that tanks are always getting their own special snowflake gear, but reusing models is a design concession, and an unfortunate fact of life in terms of MMO development. And I for one would much rather have development be put into more actual gameplay than just to further advocate the perfect waifu-simulator.

Nice strawman. No one's asking for a waifu simulator or even super special glamours, just a bit more differentiation between Healer and Caster gearsets beyond the color scheme changes. 5/13 jobs, slightly less than 40% of the entire Job pool, use the same armor model. I wouldn't mind sharing with something non-caster like, say, NIN or BRD. Hell, in XI, WHM even shared one gearset with a tank! It doesn't need to be unique.