About Plot selling

[Lexia]

screenshot and report all house sellers I say

GMs won't accept screenshots as they say they can be altered easily but if you give them the time which you saw the shout/PF listing they can look it up on their end to find it.

[raymon]

what about the people who bought houses the normal wait but want to transfer servers or upgrade to a bigger plot? they could give excess Gil to friends or the free company they are in ext.

[Amirya]

Clearly, this is no longer an option. I shudder to think of the consequences of buying something on the market board and relisting it at a higher price.

[Canadane]

Clearly, this is no longer an option. I shudder to think of the consequences of buying something on the market board and relisting it at a higher price.

That's the market board, which we're given free use of.
The houses are not a free market.

[Nihility]

There's apparently an issue with housing taking up a ton of space.

It's because the housing servers are large persistent zones rather than small instanced things like a private room.
If you notice within the guild houses you can have the little private rooms for days but the actual neighborhoods take a lot of resources to maintain

It's why they are planning those motel type things, i think they called them mansions, where it's just a preset building where tons of people can just get little instanced private quarters that aren't really part of a persistent neighborhood

The housing situation is a bit of shame though. it seems like the devs did everything they could to make it unappealing to speculation but it still happens, i guess if buyers are dumb enough to pay a guy to demo his plot and hope no one is around to scoop it up before he can there will be sellers to capitalize on it

[Spawnie]

if people really wanna sell houses/plots etc should have a marketboard type feature but as an auction people can bid whatever they want aslong as each house size has a minimum and maximum amount allowed and it closes after a week/ 2 weeks

[Cherie]

Anyone else remember the "purge" that SE did like maybe 2 months into 2.0 release? It's one reason I don't try too hard to make gil (since can't buy especially much with it anyway).

People put all kinds of effort into making money. This guy I knew didn't even level a battle job at launch, he just put everything into crafting and selling etc.

SE shut down the servers for maintenance and anyone with more than just a handfull of gil got it reset down to nothing. They never gave any of it back to those people either. Apparently this was due to a influx of RMT action on the server.

You have to be responsible with who you sell to. If someone pays you for your wares with gil that is dirty (IE, purchased from RMT) the player accepting the payment is considered responsible as I understand.

All the more reason to worry if someone is selling a plot they own. If someone is handing you millions of gil for a house, what are the odds that they are giving you dirty gil (RMT gil)? It's not a low chance right? It's not a safe thing to do.

[Ashkendor]

You have to be responsible with who you sell to. If someone pays you for your wares with gil that is dirty (IE, purchased from RMT) the player accepting the payment is considered responsible as I understand.

That would be patently unfair as the person receiving the gil has no way of knowing where it came from. Anyone that's sold cheap low level gear on the market board may have sold it to RMT. Anyone that's bought shards off the MB has probably supported RMT. Money from RMT is pervasive as all get-out. It ends up in everyone's pockets at some point or another just through the process of gil being circulated through the economy. You can't avoid it unless you completely avoid buying and selling with other players.

All the more reason to worry if someone is selling a plot they own. If someone is handing you millions of gil for a house, what are the odds that they are giving you dirty gil (RMT gil)? It's not a low chance right? It's not a safe thing to do.

You're acting like the only way to have "millions of gil" is to purchase it from RMT. I assure you, this is not the case.

[MeridaQ]

If someone pays you for your wares with gil that is dirty (RMT) the player accepting the payment is considered responsible as I understand... Its not a safe thing to do.

I don't know about the seller being responsible for "dirty gil" as a crafter I have crafted and sold thousands of items both via Mb and person to person sales. Will I get punished for making and selling an item to someone using RMT Gil? If so how am I going vet each client I interact with? There is no system in the game to do so only word of mouth and I dont see people freely admitting to buying Gil. I would say if people do get punished that is very wrong of a system that gives no way for people to check their sources. If I turned down every client that I didn't know where their Gil came from I would only make items for like 3 people.

Its unfortunate that there is a housing shortage, but lets not get into fear mongering.

[Stormrider]

SE shut down the servers for maintenance and anyone with more than just a handfull of gil got it reset down to nothing. They never gave any of it back to those people either. Apparently this was due to a influx of RMT action on the server.

You have to be responsible with who you sell to. If someone pays you for your wares with gil that is dirty (IE, purchased from RMT) the player accepting the payment is considered responsible as I understand.

I am not a SE apologist. But the people who had gil taken was fishy. They are not telling you everything and SE is not saying. Some of the crafters were circumventing the MB and some were using macro software to craft. Some people with 10+ mill punished some not. It was not a blanket situation.

So throwing that info out isn't the best example. SE though has been very shady/quiet about how some assets of this game work. Which has led to some misunderstandings. Like why after all this time an official post about how to handle house resale?