please give us something to stay in the game! (and keep keep the subscriptions up)

[Lexia]

I love ffxiv but I am on a break from it until right before 4.0.

That a pretty long break, sounds more like you quit the game from that statement since we don't know when 4.0 is coming, cause we know it won't be this year.

[Blackbird1]

That a pretty long break, sounds more like you quit the game from that statement since we don't know when 4.0 is coming, cause we know it won't be this year.

we probably won't see 4.0 till this time next year if not later...

A suggestion for people though i highly doubt they would do it: You could delete your character(s) and start all over from scratch and just totally redo everything your jobs DOL, DOH ,DOM, DOW earn it all back maybe by the time your all up to date gil wise and lvls they'll have new content for you guys XD

[Zeonx]

Here is the issue, that FFXIV has, there is nothing to cling onto and make you stay.

If there were more things that make you stay people would be doing them.
If there were NM's with rare weapon drops that were hard to get the item from people would camp them gives something to do when nothing else to do.

They have to come up with idea's to keep people interested you cant just say dungeons is the only thing and golden saucer, people like do to different things.

See thats the problem see FFXI spoiled a lot of people with a lot of things, FFXIV needs to get on par with that it cannot just be the same stuff every patch with just a tiny stuff different.

if they had more stuff for servers on the field in their own server to do a lot more people would be staying and doing them, problem is there isn't hunts are okay but not something people stick to and pvp long wait times.

they rather discontinue their sub and then wait for the next patch since nothing is keeping them here.

cousin said in FFXI he used to hunt NM's just because he was bored.

[Canadane]

Ah here's the topic you wanted to post that in lol.

On top of the pvp thing I mentioned to you elsewhere, there is a fair bit to do in the game. I mean, you may not find it all 100% exciting. Some people only want to raid. Others want storyline. Others want to craft. Some like PvP and hate PvE. Some just wanna sit and fish.

But what happens when you're done all the raids, the entire story, crafted all the things, gore weary of PvP, or fished up all the fish?
You can't just focus on one thing but still ask for more to do. There's so many classes to level, game modes to enjoy, sidequests to complete, things to gather and craft, achievements to unlock, etc.

A lot of people aren't like that though, and will complete what they find fun, not find fun in other stuff, but go on to say the game is dying there's nothing to do, we have no content, etc.

And I'm just sitting here with so many things to do I'm not even ready for the patch yet!

[Zeonx]

Haha yeah I totally messed up.

[Canadane]

I've been there... I once told someone off here regarding his beliefs on some ingame soup.
That thread was not about soup...

[Zeonx]

I've been there... I once told someone off here regarding his beliefs on some ingame soup.
That thread was not about soup...

hahaha that's funny, yeah its not my first time.

I posted in a thread and everyone was like what the heck are you talking about and then I looked and it was a totally different thread I was like my bad and found the other topic.

[silentwindfr]

snips...

and at the same time you can't ask people to go do pvp if they hate it? you can't ask people to do pve if they hate it? or ask people to do collection of card or minion or fish if it's not them thing.

let's face it, FF14 have a huge content the trouble is most of the content is killed by the release of the new content.
how much of the map do we really use? almost nothing...
how much of the content do we have an incentive reason to run? not much...
how much of the content is.... unique? not much too...

- Diadem/hunt are simply FATE grind without FATE UI... a lot of people hate FATE grind! why? because at one point it was the only way to level up decently another jobs. it's not fun, it's not interesting.... it's boring!

- housing, only a very small portion of the community have acces to it... and even when you have one it don't offer enough for be really interesting, the whole concept of area was almost pointless, how many time did you visit the house near your? or even go to another area for check the house? or even talk to the people in this house?

- Gold Saucer and it different activity, the idea are nice, but in all honestly how many people do partake into chocobo racing? how many people do partake into the new battle mode for the minion?

and i can continue like this a looot... but every time, we end with the same trouble, where are the incentive reason the player to partake into this other activity....Since all the important stuff are gated behind craft or raid....
i was happy to learn that some armor of bc will arrive in dyable version via craft, but suddenly i did remember how expensive every glamour craft did end... why? because for give an incentive reason to do it as crafter? or make people use cash? but exept crafter....who really farm gils? if you don't buy any glamour stuff... the expense of your daily life is really low... and instead to make the glamour more accesible for make people want to farm gils.... they have make it a pain in the ass to make them. recquiring to spend countless hours of farm as gatherer and crafter... often asking to go into diadem partake into mindless fate grind.

the trouble of FF14 is the fact that the dev don't know anymore what the community want or feel.... because they only look at the number.... instead to ask us our thought. they have grow more and more distant to us... they can't continue to deliver content if they don't know how feel the community really. number they get are not our feeling. Survey must be done ASAP.

for me the game need a few change really fast:
- give leves interest, bring back groups leves and maybe add a vendor that sell glamour with the money earn from this type of content
- make dungeon different, not always a freaking line... some can be a maze, some can allows you to choose in which order you fight the boss or even make a sort of areana where we must survive wave of enemy.
- add another content for the endgame.... raid and pvp are clearly not enough, group content can be turned into an endgame content rewarding as much as raid. since a lot of people simply don't have the friend nor the time to invest into a static group for this sort of content.... or simply don't love pvp into a game that was not made around fast paced fight.
- add GC grade, we gain seal and have almost nothing to use on it.
- increase the guild activity, bring stuff that guild can have to do for make people wanting to partake in group activity. like weekly bounty
- and more important.... make glamour less expensive... make it rare don't make it a good incentive reason to want it.

[Canadane]

You seem to be under the assumption that nobody does content because there's no reward.
Even though you listed a lot of content that all has rewards.

I see people playing LoV, racing chocobos, PVPing, and forming Diadem alliances all the time. Do you even look for this, or do you pass it off as non-content when perusing your party finder?
There are people actually enjoying this content. But people who get fun out of a game aren't as vocal as those that don't.

[silentwindfr]

and?
you seems to fail to understand the point, do the player do this sort of content in large number? diadem because it's one of the best way to get i210 equipement.
and the other not that much.... we can say that group are doing Alexander savage but the reality is not a lot of people are doing it.

and it's not because people do something, that they have fun to do it. you are simply doing the same error than the dev. seeing that people do something but failing to understand why people do it.... mostly because people have nothing to do of fun and incentive.

we can say that most people do the roulette, do that means people enjoy the dungeon form?
when midas will come out, a lot of people will do the normal mode, do that will means they enjoy it?

and i haven't said they are not good content, simply the number of people doing it are not that much and they need to ask player what they FEELS!!!