FFXIV major NA news release: Chocobo's and Airships (why?)

[darkstarpoet1]

best time to review it is after patch release, then they can comment on the improvements the patch has made to the game, rather than speculating and only talking about minor things. After a patch the journalist can see all the changes and give his comments about everything it's done, which will be better for the reader as they'll see all those changes and be like "wow that's a whole lot of stuff!" rather than getting small bits of info before release and going "oh, is that all?"

the thing is, i agree with the point they should give specifics about what has been changed after a patch. the problem is to give a full review you have to review what has changed and what is still the way it was. you have to give an overall review and not a patch review. i have read many reviews that i do not agree with, but that is the whole point of why i like to read them. i like to see how my opinions stack up against others.

if i don't like a review i do not go in and attack a site, the reviewer, and the review. if i disagree with something i will point out the part of the review i find wrong, but not attack everyone involved in it.

[Murugan]

the thing is, i agree with the point they should give specifics about what has been changed after a patch. the problem is to give a full review you have to review what has changed and what is still the way it was. you have to give an overall review and not a patch review. i have read many reviews that i do not agree with, but that is the whole point of why i like to read them. i like to see how my opinions stack up against others.

if i don't like a review i do not go in and attack a site, the reviewer, and the review. if i disagree with something i will point out the part of the review i find wrong, but not attack everyone involved in it.

You are talking as if the patch really includes information about 1.18. There is nothing in his review that talks about the changes, or anything in the game beyond what one would experience with in the first five minutes.

Opening tutorial.
Trying combat once (apparently with very few abilities... level 1?)


The rest is just the "writer" ranting:

"Seemingly the developer believed they were breaking new ground and creating online genius when they designed this hell-bitch of a UI – they were wrong. How difficult is it to slap on a hot bar, some customizable chat tabs, and a dozen menus which are slightly handsome to behold? Obviously very difficult, because navigating through this game is a task onto itself."

"The self-described “hamlets” on the edge of cities and in the wilderness are nothing more than a collection of brightly coloured tents centered around a floating crystal, and there is nothing to the art direction that cries out “immersion!” The cities all just seem so gorgeously bland, with little in the way of tricking you into believing it as an actual residence for a virtual populace. It seems odd as the games predecessor didn’t suffer from this problem, and one of my hopes was that the new team driving the game would have sought to update this aspect: evidently not."

"he game still exists in a bubble of unashamed grind, the levequests are still available from the twinkling crystalline hubs, obviously made just in case you felt immersed in the game, and there seems so little to really interest the gamer above and beyond gaining levels. It seems odd as the Final Fantasy series is acclaimed for its engrossing, if somewhat corny, storylines, and those on offer in this entry are truly uninteresting. The opening quests serve as an obligatory annoyance more than anything, and fighting the urge to skip the cut scenes becomes one of the MMO’s greatest challenges."

"It is still >>>>mindlessly complicated<<<<<(so complicated it is "mindless"), the UI restricts anyone not wishing to make love to their Xbox 360, and it still packs that feeling of wading through hot fudge. There is still no auction house, but searchable player merchants, little in the way of social interaction, and distinctive lack of forward facing development. Spending time within FFXIV makes you feel like you have gone back in time to play a very needlessly complex EverQuest clone, albeit without the charm."

Poor poor reviewer got paid between five and ten dollars probably for this travesty and it wasn't worth fifty cents. All the pictures were stolen from the original review (not one had anything to do with 1.18 which he was supposedly reviewing), and his entire experience based on his article much like the original MMORPG reviewer is reflective of maybe the first fifteen minutes someone spends in the game.

That isn't what the article was supposed to be, it was supposed to be (according to the title) Final Fantasy XIV: Any Better a Year Later? well... don't you think it should include a discussion of what has changed since release?

[Konachibi]

It seems odd as the Final Fantasy series is acclaimed for its engrossing, if somewhat corny, storylines, and those on offer in this entry are truly uninteresting.

Waaaaaiiiit a second.... CORNY??? What FF game has a corny storyline? Last I remember they all had extremely in-depth exciting and philosophically interesting storylines.

And FFXIV's story is uninteresting? Right so lemme think... my character has somehow aquired the power to view the past, there's primals stomping around all over the place busting stuff up, there's an evil empire attempting to conquer the world, there's some hulking great sea serpent running rampant across Eorzea's sea, there's a place called Mor Dhona with it's big dead ship and dragon motif (and an opening cutscene to go with it)...

Did the reviewer actually make it past the opening cut-scene to Ul'dah or what?

[darkstarpoet1]

That isn't what the article was supposed to be, it was supposed to be (according to the title) Final Fantasy XIV: Any Better a Year Later? well... don't you think it should include a discussion of what has changed since release?

well since you missed it the first time maybe i will quote my own post that you quoted. maybe you can read it this time.

the thing is, i agree with the point they should give specifics about what has been changed after a patch.

now maybe by shortening it to one sentence you can see that i already stated that.

[Murugan]

well since you missed it the first time maybe i will quote my own post that you quoted. maybe you can read it this time.



now maybe by shortening it to one sentence you can see that i already stated that.

Oh no I saw it, that was right before you accused me and others of basically trolling the writer and "attack(ing) everyone involved in it."

I laid out my grievances plainly. If you take issue with that then maybe you shouldn't be here criticizing the professionals who work for Square Enix on their job. I didn't call the man a rapist I said he was a bad writer, which he is and I explained why. I don't have anything personally against the guy outside of my lack of respect for his work in this instance.

Let me give you an example to make it clear:

Every so often I go out to eat at a fancy restaurant with someone. Sometimes a valet parks my car. I respect what the valet does, and I respect the guy/girl as a person. I tip well and I am always nice to them. I'm not an elitist, in fact I drive a pretty crappy car to be going to such a nice restaurant, and sometimes I share a laugh with the valet who drives something much nicer. Still if they crash my car I'd be quite upset with them, but I still wouldn't use the opportunity to berate them as human beings. People make mistakes and not everyone is made out for every job right away, but they can learn and get better.

I think that the writer of this article should try his hand at working as a valet, and during this time he can attend journalism school and learn how to write a proper article. I'd tip him well, and wish him the best.

[darkstarpoet1]

Oh no I saw it, that was right before you accused me and others of basically trolling the writer and "attack(ing) everyone involved in it."

I laid out my grievances plainly. If you take issue with that then maybe you shouldn't be here criticizing the professionals who work for Square Enix on their job. I didn't call the man a rapist I said he was a bad writer, which he is and I explained why. I don't have anything personally against the guy outside of my lack of respect for his work in this instance.

Let me give you an example to make it clear:

Every so often I go out to eat at a fancy restaurant with someone. Sometimes a valet parks my car. I respect what the valet does, and I respect the guy/girl as a person. I tip well and I am always nice to them. I'm not an elitist, in fact I drive a pretty crappy car to be going to such a nice restaurant, and sometimes I share a laugh with the valet who drives something much nicer. Still if they crash my car I'd be quite upset with them, but I still wouldn't use the opportunity to berate them as human beings. People make mistakes and not everyone is made out for every job right away, but they can learn and get better.

I think that the writer of this article should try his hand at working as a valet, and during this time he can attend journalism school and learn how to write a proper article. I'd tip him well, and wish him the best.

ok let's see if these posts by you are grievances or attacking and trolling the site and the author

"Arrogant sums up the entire stable of MMORPG.com staff who currently write "about" FFXIV."

"There are trolls which have been banned from MMORPG on the FFXIV section who write better criticisms than this. I highly suggest anyone interested in getting fuel against this game go read their posts, this is all old outdated, "noob" crap."

"Let's be honest this was yet another chance for these "writers" at MMORPG to enlighten us all about how much they hate FFXIV, it had little to nothign to do with 1.18 to the changes of the game, to the current state of the game."

"You all should try writing some articles with substance sometime, some of your readers might appreciate it over these slanted op-ed pieces you are fond of running slamming the game with nothing to back it up."

this doesn't seem very well thought out criticisms. this is you personally attacking the reviewer, the site, and anyone else that disagrees with you. remember these are directly from your posts on that site.

the thing is, i agree with the point they should give specifics about what has been changed after a patch. the problem is to give a full review you have to review what has changed and what is still the way it was. you have to give an overall review and not a patch review. i have read many reviews that i do not agree with, but that is the whole point of why i like to read them. i like to see how my opinions stack up against others.

if i don't like a review i do not go in and attack a site, the reviewer, and the review. if i disagree with something i will point out the part of the review i find wrong, but not attack everyone involved in it.

please show me where i accused you of trolling anything in this post. i didn't state you did anything and the post wasn't even responding to nor talking to you.

[AngryNixon]

The Final Fantasy XIV Lodestone has been updated with new information about two features that have been long-anticipated: Chocobo mounts and Airships!
Players will have the ability to earn a Chocobo whistle by joining one of the Grand Companies and purchase the whistle with 3,000 company seals.
For those players who find that a steep price to pay, Chocobos will be available for rent. Chocobos can be rented in several locations for 800 gil for a ten minute ride.
Airships will also be arriving with v1.19 and will allow players quick transport between the three city state of Limsa Lominsa, Ul'dah and Gridania.

Carrying on with the theme of "attacking" MMORPG.com because it's amusing (I'm not really attacking them but you can characterize it that way if it floats your boat). As evidence that MMORPG.com really hasn't the foggiest about FFXIV... Who, that actually plays the game, would ever think 3,000 seals was "steep". Wasn't there a long thread responded to by the community reps specifically berating SE because the prices were thought, by some, to be too low??

I agree with many of the posters in this thread that find SE wanting in their information management. For those of us who play the game and so understand the larger picture, the articles jump out as being biased or "talking out of their ass". It's painfully obvious in other words that what they're saying is either untrue or to a lesser extent slanted or coloured in certain ways. For someone who does not play the game however and does not troll the lodestone or the official forums, they wouldn't know what SE's position is or the actual reaction of at least a segment of the community (the ones that post) that still play the game from time to time. If you went solely by what those other sites say and by the comments posted in relation to those articles, one could hardly be blamed (ok maybe a little bit of blame is deserved) for thinking this game was as awful as it's portrayed. That's where SE's information (image) management comes in.

[Renshi]

Actually yeah, that's even not an half-assed review, since the reviewer only reviews the game in its initial state. I prefer when somebody asks Me to talk about the game if they want a review of an experienced gamer, rather than this beginner's lack of information. Hate it when people receives the wrong informations on things.
Just a week later I've heard some guys talking about FFXIII, and when I heard "You know, it's like Dante's Inferno" I was kinda sad about disinformation. Please, if you want to know things, take a good source of informations, explaining from A to Z.

[MizoreShirayuki]

Another topic about FF14 seemed to land on IGN's front page... Again it was only a paragraph... And again it told only half the story: HERE

[Konachibi]

Another topic about FF14 seemed to land on IGN's front page... Again it was only a paragraph... And again it told only half the story: HERE

Noticed how broken that page actually is? Us experienced players can point out several flaws just by looking at it:

It has a PS3 game box even though FFXIV isn't on PS3 yet.
It's listed as a 'Persistant Online RPG' when it's a Massively Multiplayer Online RPG (Persistant Online RPG doesn't even exist as a genre!)
It's european release date is TBA 2011 even though it's obviously already been released.
The PEGI rating is RP when it's really rated 12.
It's also available on: PC and PC???

Not only do IGN talk right from their steaming backsides about pretty much everything (I have an ever-growing hatred of them since watching one of their reviews on X-Box live which was... BEYOND wrong about the game they were reviewing!), but they can't even list their own game details correctly.