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    FunkyBunch's Avatar
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    Imai Blackren
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    Ninja Lv 71
    I came to this thread to see that DRGs can actually do AoE.
    Please do the AoE thing instead of single target burst when there are 3+ enemies.

    As a "crappy" BLM I cringe whenever a target gets bursted down when there are 5 or 6 enemies because it's a DPS loss for every AoE I do after that target is dead.
    Ideally you want all the mobs dead at the same time. What's even worse is that when you burst them down like that, you're not even making the clear happen any faster until we're down to 2 mobs. Because I'm still doing damage to all of them and you're gradually focusing down enemies and the last ones that die are still the ones I was the only one doing damage to.

    Basically assume it takes 30 seconds for me to kill a group of monsters by myself with just the tank and healer.
    If you keep bursting down monsters and the group still takes 30 seconds to kill, you haven't helped.
    Even if your AoE is weaker than your single target, if you're single targeting you're actually causing a group DPS loss despite having a higher personal DPS.
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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Eve Malqir
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyBunch View Post
    Even if your AoE is weaker than your single target, if you're single targeting you're actually causing a group DPS loss despite having a higher personal DPS.
    In a pull of 5-6, every single class benefits from using AoE. Death Blossom may be weak, but it's still 100 potency. 500-600 is only rivaled by Mutilate, which takes a full 30 seconds to match what you can do in ~2.

    So I definitely agree with the idea of AoE being used in bigger pulls, as well, but it *is* worth noting that certain targets should be a priority, and killing them quicker can contribute to group dps. That big dumb crystal dog in Pharos Hard, for example, does obnoxious AoE targeted on not-tank targets. If that's the BLM, dps loss. If I, as a Dragoon, do a single-target rotation to "burn" that down (HT>CT>FT with gsk hitting everything), it ends up being beneficial to the raid before I start spreading dots, for example! (Though I generally will only do this if I have a ranged dps with me; if it's double melee idgaf)

    But in general, yeah, if you're not doing AoE, you're a scrub. Plain and simple, and I do honestly think that, if you ask them to AoE and they refuse, it should be grounds for kicking them. Kicking a tank who can't hold hate and refuses to fix and causes wipes is cool. Kicking a healer who can't keep people alive is fine. Kicking someone who absolutely sucks at damage? That's somehow crossing a line. I don't get that.
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    AlereRaeder's Avatar
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    Alere Raeder
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JackFross View Post
    ... I don't get that.

    it's mai 15 dollars! XD
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