How do many of you feel about helping?

[Ashkendor]

Is constant wipes enough for you to stop helping PUGs?

That all depends on the circumstances. If it's DF, I'm pretty mule-stubborn about giving people a chance to fix mistakes. If it's someone that joined a farm party insisting they know what's going on, my patience is a lot shorter lived. Either way, if we have someone that's just not learning (or not even bothering to try) then yes I will eventually stop helping. If I'm giving advice meant to help us clear but it's not being listened to, that's the point where I feel I'm wasting my time and mayaswell not even bother.

Does people who do more joking that fighting make you stop?

If it's causing wipes and loss of progress, yes. Some people can't talk and focus on the fight at the same time. I'll flat-out ask them to stop talking about anything that doesn't involve the current fight if it's in voice chat, because that can also be distracting to other people. If they're too busy typing out jokes in chat to dodge or do mechanics, I'll call them out on that too.

Are you the type who leave at the sign of "bonus" popping on the screen?

Again, this is situational. If the message pops up in DF, I just view it as a happy bonus. If it pops up in a farm party and I haven't been told in advance to expect it, then I get a little leery but I'm willing to give people a chance. Some people just say it so you'll let them in and don't really have a clue, though. I'm willing to give it a shot to see whether or not they're lying about their experience.

[Yojimzo]

Is constant wipes enough for you to stop helping PUGs?
Does people who do more joking that fighting make you stop?
Are you the type who leave at the sign of "bonus" popping on the screen?

I'm just trying to gather some information.

No, if there is a party rage quit, I'm always the last to leave.
No, so long as they actually focus on the fights, if they're joking during a pull or boss, then I get mildly annoyed, but just carry harder.
God no, everyone starts somewhere.
And yeah, only time I refuse to help is if someone refuses to bloody learn, course then again, I have a motto for my outlook on life. "I am not a cynic, I am an optimist who has been disappointed too many times."

[Synrin]

@ the people replying to me, I just have issues with people. I don't trust their motives most of the time. I also do not believe that anything comes for free. But oh well.
I was just saying that it would be nice to get something in return, at least a FRIEND or something, but it is not needed nor do I really expect it with the people nowadays.
It's not just in games, but also in real life.

Now that you above me mentioned carrying, I actually like carrying. I mean, I often get grouped in leveling roulettes with people who don't do their part and don't really deserve the clear, but what can you do. Save the day, 2-man the bosses etc. It's not that bad. At least you get to be a hero. I remember when I needed carrying. All the patient people who had me in your group, you da real MVP.

[Anarnee]

If people show they genuinely want to do it and give their all I'm all for helping! I usually do most content at release, so I seldom need "help" cause we're all learning together~

[Animarelic]

I tend to help others but don't get help in return. I don't complain because I get satisfaction out of helping others. Does it get frustrating? yes when you really want something the same way they wanted it. I don't lose my faith in humanity though sometimes the effort was more fun than the accomplishment.

[Theodric]

I like helping people if they're willing to learn. I firmly believe that people shouldn't sign up for a random roulette unless they're prepared to offer aid to those who require it - especially if they're a budding tank or healer because we need more of those rather than less.

[JammerSidewinder]

It's mostly the people doing more joking and goofing around than paying attention to the fight that really make me want to stop helping. I'm genuinely offering my help and giving pointers and they'd rather go "lol i'm just trying to have fun, lighten up dude", well that's when i stop helping. If you can't respect that i'm trying to help, you don't deserve it.

[lvlagmarink]

Is constant wipes enough for you to stop helping PUGs?
I'm actually the kind of player who likes winning being achievable from lots of wipes instead of straight-forward wins... Nevertheless, other players who usually play with me has said that i'm sorta encouraging new players with my patience, but destroying their mental because i laugh at them in case they die at the same time..

Does people who do more joking that fighting make you stop?
I'd say i'm actually the type who jokes around a lot, like putting player-targeted aoe to another player, or the tank, letting other players dying then suddenly give instant lustrate/benediction, ripping tanks enmity as dps and so on.. but still, i still do it while getting the things done..

Are you the type who leave at the sign of "bonus" popping on the screen?
Oh! Those signs are my favourite!! I'm actually the kind of player who goes in duty finder to search for them, because most of the time, the "virgins" tend to make the fight to a new level of fun (in my view)

[Werhusky]

For me is helping a big part of me and I enjoy it. A lot of people send me friend requests only for attempting and if I see eg we wipe because of person XX and I get fed up with wipes I send the person(s) I think that deserve the clear on something a /tell to just poke me if they try again.
The counterside is that people start to think you will help on anything. A friend asked me to help out in Ponyfarm... JUST NO! If you want the pony there are enough others up for it on PF but I have also other stuff to do.
That others help you is... well depends on the person I had some helping me in return other not and idm. You help if you feel like it and have time
Also some people also help me for "low" use for them like I offered my "help" for a 2 chest weekly A3S and had been last phase once up to hand and they accepted me and took me along even when we wiped a full timer for their weekly with 2 chests.
Social life is about give and take if I stop giving I doubt others would give still :/

If I DF stuff like EX primals and Coils I try to explain if needed I try my language "skills" on french. I DF those expecting wipes in Alex NM though where its is basically a short dungeon (A1, A3, A4) I might get annoyed and leave after 4-5 wipes if noone else RQ b4 me. A2 is just a general pain I wouldnt even do it outside of helping someone out lol

[Mirili]

If I'm in a DF group that wipes more than a couple times, I'll probably just leave and try my luck again. That doesn't happen very often at all, though, for the things I'd even use the Duty Finder for. Anything outside of Savage or Thordan Ex is so mechanically simple, I don't have much patience for anyone that doesn't quite get what's going on.
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People usually don't require much of a detailed description, anyway. I'll throw out "Tank here", or "Go here when the thing happens." Thing happens, they go to the place and/or do the thing. Victory!

I don't pretend it makes me a good samaritan/mentor/whale biologist to tell people these things. I just want things to not be awful, and I want my loot at the end.

Seems like a lot of posters here derive something akin to pleasure from "going down with the ship." I, uh, don't think that's a very healthy mentality. It's okay to value your own time. Really. It's okay. Leave the duty. Come back later. The next group will be better.