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  1. #91
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    Uhm... These posts... I wonder if they are started by trolls..

    you over-exaggerate the thing about gender locks...

    SOME GEAR IS NOT MADE TO BE WEAR BY SOME GENDERS.

    And a hat with a different colored feather is NOT A BIG DEAL.
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  2. #92
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    Firstly, whilst you are fully entitled to be offended or outraged about something, that does not mean anyone is obligated to do something about it.
    Secondly, I don't think you understand what 'discrimination' means. There is nothing one-sided or biased about giving out a near-identical hat for both sexes. If one had been given a hat and the other received nothing, then that would be bias.

    Now points raised by other people, such as female characters being able to wear male clothes but not vice-versa could potentially be seen as discrimination, however, as you are able to change genders or even pick an opposite gender in the first place (as this is a game), I don't think it really holds much water against real discrimination that happens in the real world.
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  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziyaal View Post
    Who are you to dictate how people express themselves?
    Um.... They're the creators of the game you are populating. You know. The people who set the rules? That's who they are. In their game, it's their rules.

    Feel free to go express yourself however you like in the real world. This is a tired subject that needs to never be brought up again, regardless if it's male or female character favouritism. Wow.
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derceto View Post
    Um.... They're the creators of the game you are populating. You know. The people who set the rules? That's who they are. In their game, it's their rules.

    Feel free to go express yourself however you like in the real world. This is a tired subject that needs to never be brought up again, regardless if it's male or female character favouritism. Wow.
    This, right here sums exactly what needs to be said - You are guests here (albeit an honored one) that have no place to dictate to the game developers what they will put into their games - Not getting what you want out of the game, no one is twisting your arms to stay and play so stop bloviating your PoV to people who'd rather not have to listen to it =\
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  5. #95
    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    @Derceto & Bladesinger

    Just because you dont like a subject and dont like to hear some stuff, doesnt mean that people SHOULD never bring it up again. That reaction you both had albeit by agreeing to each other is totally out of place and stupid (I am sorry I cant find another way to say it). This is a forum, where people can expess whatever they like on whatever they dont like, be it to disagree, agree or ask for changes or wish for stuff. If this is too hard for you two to bare, by all means you can retreive from the discussion.

    In a game where people can get married with same gender, where people go around naked, half naked, with bunny ears and stuff, I dont find it totally unrealistic to ask for gears, digital gears, NOT to be locked behind gender.

    If a company agrees on satisfying all kind of players by respecting their desires (you know what I mean so I dont think I need to explain more in-depth) I dont see a problem for the company to let the gears be worn by whoever wants to wear them be it female or male.Miqote or Hyur or whatever race.

    Refusing to discuss this in a civil educated and respectulf manner is showing a narrow minded view and being a bit of the obtuse side on a topic perfectly legit.

    I still want this topic to be locked but not because of the topic itself and the request but because of people like you two that cant admit that in the world there are other things then what is considered as *Normal*.

    Also, we are guests but paying guests in case you forgot, and a such you have two slolutions

    a) express your disappointments or desires so that in a way it can better the experience / keep people happy about what they can get in-game
    b) go away

    I choose the first one, maybe you should choose the second.
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    Last edited by MeiUshu; 02-05-2016 at 11:00 PM.

  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladesinger View Post
    This, right here sums exactly what needs to be said - You are guests here (albeit an honored one) that have no place to dictate to the game developers what they will put into their games - Not getting what you want out of the game, no one is twisting your arms to stay and play so stop bloviating your PoV to people who'd rather not have to listen to it =\
    Guests? Who makes their guests pay to stay at their house? We are paying CUSTOMERS and have every right to give feedback as to what we would like to see in the future.
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnaviAnael View Post
    Guests? Who makes their guests pay to stay at their house? We are paying CUSTOMERS and have every right to give feedback as to what we would like to see in the future.
    no one is against feedback . but why people have to post in ragei'sh whiny type way all the time?
    It gets boring some people dont know what manners are ^^
    so aslong people continue to post in a childish way , theres gona be these type of replies :P
    (some people react allergetic to whining , coz it gets boring ^^ )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilgung View Post
    Did it occur to you that same gendered couples exist? And that the game allows you to do the event as such.

    EDIT: That looks a lot harsher than I intended, but point still stands. Gender locking for couples reasons when same gender couples are allowed is silly design.
    Yes, I am aware that same-sex couples exist. However in video game land that's only an option. Playing opposite sex characters is as simple as clicking a different button. In this game, males come with male gear and females come with female gear. Choose what's most important to you accordingly.

    Again, the color of the tiny ribbon on the hat? And why force this to be about LGBT issues when it's equally annoying for everyone?
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  9. #99
    Player MeiUshu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khemorex View Post
    no one is against feedback . but why people have to post in ragei'sh whiny type way all the time?
    It gets boring some people dont know what manners are ^^
    so aslong people continue to post in a childish way , theres gona be these type of replies :P
    (some people react allergetic to whining , coz it gets boring ^^ )
    once again, saying someone is whiney is a matter of perception, I, personally didnt take it as OP being whiney. This is a Forum once again, people need to learn to stop thinking because they dont agree with something or, as I said, dont want to hear some stuff that whoever is saying it is a "wheney" post. At this rate, any request is whiney right ?
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  10. #100
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    Look, some people would like all gear to be available to everyone. That's their perogative.

    I think more people would prefer that both sexes have equal but different options. Because diversity adds flavor to the game.

    Also, I would like to point out that in real life the sexes are naturally different AND equal. And the world is a richer place for it.
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