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    Quote Originally Posted by Shikiseki View Post
    Where exactly did I say I have anything against anyone? He wanted to know what kind of people live in Odin. o.o
    I changed the order if that sounds somewhat less offensive(?).
    What he means is that LGBT ARE normal people....what makes them not "normal"?
    IE, no reason to separate them like you are with raiders, AFKers, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    IE, no reason to separate them like you are with raiders, AFKers, etc.
    And are any of those not "normal"? He didn't separate them. He just listed a whole bunch of categories of people, most of which are not exclusive of each other (so there's no suggestion that any need to be exclusive of the last category), but Cassiopio decided to jump on him for mentioning that one. Nobody jumped on him for suggesting that Europeans aren't normal people or that raiders aren't normal people, or that roleplayers aren't also crafters, etc.

    All he did was include a final catch-all category since some people don't fit into specific ones. There's no need to twist a friendly welcoming post and try to make something hateful from it on that basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    And are any of those not "normal"? All he did was include a final catch-all category since some people don't fit into specific ones. There's no need to twist a friendly welcoming post and try to make something hateful from it on that basis.
    Greetings Niwashi. By your colorful badges & lvl you're the highest ranking player in this thread, and are to be respected but you're missing it and I must disagree. Shikiseki's rude and distasteful statement in his inclusion of "LGBT" and "nordic people" as not "normal people" is deserving of censure. Would you also be as tolerant if You are of LGBT sexuality or of Nordic heritage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassiopio View Post
    Greetings Niwashi. By your badges/colors & lvl you're the highest ranking player in this thread, and are to be respected but you're missing it and I must disagree. Shikiseki's rude and distasteful statement in his inclusion of "LGBT" and "nordic people" as not "normal people" is deserving of censure. Would you also be as tolerant if You are of LGBT sexuality or of Nordic heritage?
    Hello, Cassiopio! Just a heads up, but the "badges" are not ranks, they just represent the post count they have. The only high ranking people in this forum are the GMs and Developers. I would also like to point out that Shikiseki meant no harm, and by "normal" people he was referring to more casual folk and not homophobia. As someone who is apart of the LGBTQA+ community I see no harm in what he said, and was only trying to be friendly, however I am sorry you feel his post is offensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zomkei View Post
    Hello, Cassiopio! Just a heads up. As someone who is apart of the LGBTQA+ community I see no harm in what he said, and was only trying to be friendly, however I am sorry you feel his post is offensive.
    My goodness Zomkei ! After proudly announcing your sexuality, I'm equally sorry about your non-offensiveness at being so tolerant of one of your associates who considers you as not being a "normal person". It's ok for Shikiseki to "try" to be friendly when the attempt is not contradicted in context. Ya think!
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