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    Sleigh's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdude View Post
    I'm having trouble explaining to my friend why 6 fire IV opener is weaker than proc fire 1 opener. He can't graps that getting more spells under buffs is better than losing a fire IV. Anyone got a really brief but detailed explaination I can just copy paste.
    Do you mean Sharp F1 opener vs F3 opener?

    F1 opener is generally more DPS because you're unable to get MP screwed, you have an easier time with oGCD entry, and if you luck out and get a Firestarter proc you do more damage anyway regardless of other factors.

    F3 opener is strong but you have to slow it down due to raw oGCDs, and if you get no MP tick at the start you will literally sit there for 0-3 seconds waiting for an MP tick without casting anything. You use the F3 opener, or any opener that isn't the F1 opener, for timing/mobility purposes, like in A3S and Thordan.

    I wouldn't call the F1 opener "losing" a F4. You're just turning it into a Flare, barely a difference TBH.
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    Jayem Eff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    Do you mean Sharp F1 opener vs F3 opener?

    F1 opener is generally more DPS because you're unable to get MP screwed, you have an easier time with oGCD entry, and if you luck out and get a Firestarter proc you do more damage anyway regardless of other factors.

    F3 opener is strong but you have to slow it down due to raw oGCDs, and if you get no MP tick at the start you will literally sit there for 0-3 seconds waiting for an MP tick without casting anything. You use the F3 opener, or any opener that isn't the F1 opener, for timing/mobility purposes, like in A3S and Thordan.

    I wouldn't call the F1 opener "losing" a F4. You're just turning it into a Flare, barely a difference TBH.
    I'm talking about the 6 f4 opener and Sharp 1 opener in the opening post, thank you. Would you ever use the Quad F4 opener mentioned in the video?
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