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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Houston009 View Post
    I would sooner like to see Cure
    WHM is powerful enough with its cc and regens, making it a power healer on top of that would be hilariously overpowered for team v team
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  2. #82
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    Straigus Rheyist
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    Quote Originally Posted by CeveArthu View Post
    WHM is powerful enough with its cc and regens, making it a power healer on top of that would be hilariously overpowered for team v team
    Nah, it'll be G. Need something to combat the amount of violations people will suffer at Lv. 60 Arena burst capabilities.
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    Last edited by Houston009; 01-06-2016 at 02:32 AM.

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    yeah i think healer will need to get more skilled in this 60 arena, i would not say an healer need to be nerfed before see what happen in wolfden. healer and other get often split in wolfden, so players don't have problem to focus only healer in this case.
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  4. #84
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    Lorielle Kurayami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzace View Post
    Yes, nerf a class cause they outshine in one aspect of the game, Genius.

    L2P And stop 1v1 a healer, Dive on him with your party, Get some hits in, stun &LB. Done
    Uhh..Sometimes those kind of things require some attention. Cleric Stance. Regen Stacking. They got nerfed pretty hard but they outshined in one aspect of the game. Was it needed? Definitely. In a 72 man party, AST isn't a huge concern because they can't do much. In smaller groups, it's more obvious because they can kite for days. Much like SMN is more dominant in 72 man versus smaller games.
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  5. #85
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    Isagael Rose
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzace View Post
    Yes, nerf a class cause they outshine in one aspect of the game, Genius.

    L2P And stop 1v1 a healer, Dive on him with your party, Get some hits in, stun &LB. Done
    Sometimes, they just adjust/nerf a pve skill and make the ajustment only affect PvP areas (like Sleep for example). So, it is possible for them to 'nerf' an AST skill for the context of PvP but leave it as is...or even boost that very same skill for play in PvE. Other times, they can just not allow that skill to be usable in PvP, but still allow it to function in PVE as intended. (Cleric's Stance for example...or MedicaII/Regen Stacking)
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Houston009 View Post
    I would sooner like to see Cure, Physick, and Benefic becoming insta-cast in PvP areas before they wreck A.Benefic.
    Bumped to +1 this. I'd much rather see this change than any of the nerfs suggested.
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  7. #87
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    Knives Stryfe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Houston009 View Post
    I would sooner like to see Cure, Physick, and Benefic becoming insta-cast in PvP areas before they wreck A.Benefic.
    What would this even do? Its the shield that comes on top of the insta-cure that makes AST annoying to people. Unless you mean disable aspect benefic in pvp and buff benefic to insta cast?
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  8. #88
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    Kyani Jawantal
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
    What would this even do? Its the shield that comes on top of the insta-cure that makes AST annoying to people. Unless you mean disable aspect benefic in pvp and buff benefic to insta cast?
    The shield isn't actually "important" aside from being potency - it's an instant cast 603 potency heal, which is 603 more than SCH or WHM have on demand.
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  9. #89
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    They need to really balance pvp if they want Feast to be successful.

    Astro is literally not fun to play against in Wolves Den, and will be worse in 60.
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  10. #90
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    Atreus Auditore
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
    What would this even do? Its the shield that comes on top of the insta-cure that makes AST annoying to people. Unless you mean disable aspect benefic in pvp and buff benefic to insta cast?
    It isn't the shield at all, it's all the freecasting AST gets to do under pressure. All 3 healers can be crushed by good burst and stuns, but AST gets to thrive through all the pressure afterwards. The other healers require a lot more party help to survive. Straigus' idea would level that out somewhat.

    AST so far has been very new-healer-accessible while still being insane in the hands of good healers (like Straigus there). I'd say the other healers could use a push in that direction before we make AST 100% interrupted by coughs like them.
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