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  1. #251
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    Whiteroom's Avatar
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    T'erra Branford
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TSLsmokey View Post
    Can't remember the date but I was doing Dusk Vigil for as a PLD, first time as a tank. One of the dps gives me a piece of advice that I start taking(completely forgot defensive CDs because I usually had good healers that could keep up just fine). I continue on, using the defensive CDs as needed and as we reach a point where 8 mobs spawn and I take the aggro for them, I suddenly appear back in Camp Falcon(can't remember the name right now) with a message saying I had been votekicked. My other teammate exits the dungeon in complete rage and I was pretty pissed too. Was I doing bad at first? Apparently. Did I try to adapt? Yes. I'd guess I was kicked for not using defensive CDs before that last pull but they were still cooling down at that point and in fact still active from the last pull. I don't know if my guessed reason was right or not but I got a chuckle out of it at the end... those 8 mobs wiped them most likely.

    I also rarely votekick. The only time I went ahead and initiated one on a non-offline player was when they started mocking me at the beginning, and continued insulting me to about halfway to the first boss. Why did they stop? Well the votekick I started might have had something to do with it... Unfortunately WE wiped because the healer was with the DRG harasser and left right before we pulled. I take it as a good sign that that was the first time I ever votekicked someone since I began FFXIV a year ago for harassment.
    Just a heads up though, you should be using them regardless of if your healer is keeping up "just fine". You are severely limiting them by forcing them to spam heals on you when you don't use them. The point of a PLD is damage mitigation. Defensive cooldowns are key to passing the line of "I queued as a tank" to "I am a tank."

    Just something from a healer who has been set into nothing but Cure II spam on tanks far too many times.
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  2. #252
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    TSLsmokey's Avatar
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    Josh Corvus
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Yeah I do use CDs frequently now at least. At the time I had not been told(yeah I hadn't been told the entire 51 levels that it was something I needed to do. Should've realized it) and I adapted as fast as possible. Didn't save me from the boot in the end but helped me improve in the long run. Knowing exactly what it causes now, thanks to you, I can say that I will try to them as often as possible. As a question, is there a preferred order of the defensive CDs as I know it's not a good idea to use them all at once.
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  3. #253
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    Whiteroom's Avatar
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    T'erra Branford
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TSLsmokey View Post
    Yeah I do use CDs frequently now at least. At the time I had not been told(yeah I hadn't been told the entire 51 levels that it was something I needed to do. Should've realized it) and I adapted as fast as possible. Didn't save me from the boot in the end but helped me improve in the long run. Knowing exactly what it causes now, thanks to you, I can say that I will try to them as often as possible. As a question, is there a preferred order of the defensive CDs as I know it's not a good idea to use them all at once.
    I don't play PLD anymore, and am pretty tired, so not remembering much about it. But it's really situational. Know what they are, and what they do, then as you learn the content, you will figure out where to apply each. Know which have shorter and longer timers, so you know if you can use it and have it back before the big hit. Sorry I can't say more right now. Good job on learning them though, it can be very frustrating for a healer.
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  4. #254
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    Komoritane's Avatar
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    Serene Meadow
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    Marilith
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post

    Unforgettable run, really.
    I laughed so hard I cried when I read this. I had a similar experience.

    I queued Sastasha the 1st time as gladiator and the "finding party members" screen listed me as a TANK. I thought "I wonder what a 'TANK' is" but the duty started before I could look into it. Then I stood there wondering, "Why isn't anyone moving?" After like 30 seconds I started walking and everyone followed me. I was like, "Hmm that's weird"

    There was a convo about someone needing advice, the THM mentioned possibly giving up, I had no idea what they were talking about. Someone said "no giving up" and we moved on.

    Luckily, I looked up "tank" on the internet after that dungeon run. I wish they had explained or kicked me, but I have to give them a lot of credit for being so nice. Serious troopers.
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  5. #255
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    Immut's Avatar
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    Kaye Esdarke
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Komoritane View Post
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    It's pretty bad that you could get to Satasha without learning your role in the group. SE should maybe have an active help window explaining the roles.
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  6. #256
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    firstsin's Avatar
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    Alkaid Gainsborough
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    Spriggan
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    I got vote kicked after replying back to a tank who blamed me for not doing mechanics in Haukke Manor (normal).

    TL: DR the healer and the other DPS ignored the mechanics resulting in the entire areana being flooded with the room wide AoE from the lamps. But because I answered back to the tank and said everyone should do their fair share i was made to be the one who was not supporting the group.

    I got vote kicked, joined in progress again got kicked, joined in progress again, got kicked third time. Waited for them to leave and then got 3 friends to join in progress and we cleared the fight. Karma can be sweet sometimes.
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    Last edited by firstsin; 01-29-2016 at 11:47 PM.

  7. #257
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    Laurima's Avatar
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    Mizu Ka
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    Balmung
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    Weaver Lv 80
    Kicked from Arboretum after telling the tank to pull less, use cooldowns and not to expect me to carry him as a healer

    He pulled everything, his sole comment back was dps do more damage >< Kicked just before the end boss after a rather scary run.

    Duty Finder really really really needs a thing which keeps the mindless idiots with their own ilk and match good people with other good people ><
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  8. #258
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    Jeannes's Avatar
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    Character
    Arden Reign
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 60
    Why?

    Because I yell at dps for pulling, but what do I care if they vote me out. It'll only take me 15 seconds to get another Queue. Stop going ahead or pulling mobs I didn't touch. You're not the leader.

    Your pull. Your life. Catch on fire.
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  9. #259
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    Saiah's Avatar
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    Saiah Brea
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    Moogle
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeannes View Post
    Why?

    Because I yell at dps for pulling, but what do I care if they vote me out. It'll only take me 15 seconds to get another Queue. Stop going ahead or pulling mobs I didn't touch. You're not the leader.

    Your pull. Your life. Catch on fire.
    When I tank the "You pull it, you tank it." rule applies.

    The only real time I got votekicked was in Labyrinth of the ancients 2 years ago. Another MNK in the party didnt want to risk losing a roll for his precious legs. So he started arguing the moment we came in. Calling dibs on loot. I wouldnt have any of it. During Atomos I tried to LB it, but just when it finished casting the other party stepped of the platform. This caused the MNK to go off on a tangent, wich leds to someone else in the party starting a vote kick for him, wich failed. The tank assumed I started it, and I was promptly vote kicked myself after some verbal abuse from him.

    Needless to say I reported them both.
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  10. #260
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    Synrin's Avatar
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    Character
    Mel Az
    World
    Cerberus
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    I got kicked a couple of times for disconnecting/lagging. I understand why though (obviously). But on the other hand, I never initiate or vote for kicking if someone is offline. I prefer waiting a bit. Once a dps got dc'd, we went through the mobs, and he managed to reconnect for the last boss. All good.
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