One thing always bugged me about Glamour Prisms: Why five Grades for each type?

[starLivitation]

They're easy money, the easiest money in the game in fact. It doesn't even require camping, just throw some up every now and then and they usually always sell within the hour (unless it's a less popular brand like alchemy or woodworking then it might take a bit).

easy money, do u mean to say its a way to make gill? that maybe some decent income for somoene who has below 100k gill i guess. but for somoene like me who has usually 1m to 6m on hand in either items or other material / food to sell to mb, its not much. also there is people with 100m or even max gold, what use is it for them?

[Nalien]

I have a suspicion that this idiodic move on the Glamour system is what is eating up all the memory that could have been used on a fisherman bait box. I'd even be willing to do aong, drug out Quest line that would set me back (anouther) million Gil if that ment getting a bait box.

Funny you should mention Fishing... The Fish Guide is essentially what a Glamour Log could (should) be... I mean, I don't have any Malm Kelp in my inventory, but I can view the information on it in my Fish Guide if I want... A Glamour Log would function similarly; You obtain some gear, burn it into your Log, then you can access that Glamour where ever you are... I never quite understood their "We'd rather just add more inventory space" argument for this... I mean, a Glamour Log would only store the visual information for gear; The stats, durability, spiritbond level, and so on... None of that would need to be stored, none of that is important for Glamours, after all... I would gladly burn gear to unlock solely the visual information for Glamours in such a Log, and you know what happens then? I get two bleedin' retainers worth of inventory space back.

I think that explains both why their argument is stupid, and why they're never going do anything about it. A Glamour Log frees up inventory space, we don't need more inventory space with that in mind. Retainers cost money though, real money, so it's in their best interest to keep this crappy system in place to "force" people to subscribe for the extra retainer service...

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

The real reason they give us 5 grades of prisms is so SE can bloat our inventory. And then when we ask them to implement solutions to the inventory problem, they direct us to the mogstation where we can buy more retainers and tell us that's the only thing that can be done.

[Artemiz]

The glamour system is cluncky and full of fluff, one prism to rule them all I'd say. Or even better once I've owned an item I can glamour it from some kind of log as mentioned above. I also agree that the glamour prism market isn't great for crafters, considering the market value of them I'd much rather fill my retainers with other products, that make far more money than prisms or sell faster/higher quantities. I'm just glad I can make all the prisms myself, that way I just keep the base materials and make what I want on demand to save space, if I had to buy them it would drive me nuts.

[Alahra]

I'd guess that the main reason for their being multiple grades for each type is so that the market for each one doesn't become over-bloated with supply in the long run. They're easy to craft (it seems) to both serve as an early "carrot" to get people to perhaps try crafting that wouldn't otherwise, and also as a way for less devoted crafters to have a steady stream of income. Since they're so easy to craft, if there were only one type for each crafting class, the potential for supply to outstrip demand could be significant.

I'm not sure the different grades are truly necessary (it's honestly hard to predict market trends without actually implementing the change being discussed), but whether or not they are, that seems to be why the developers did things this way.

[myahele]

easy money, do u mean to say its a way to make gill? that maybe some decent income for somoene who has below 100k gill i guess. but for somoene like me who has usually 1m to 6m on hand in either items or other material / food to sell to mb, its not much. also there is people with 100m or even max gold, what use is it for them?

Pretty much this. it's relatively easy/ consistent gil for new crafters, but not really for older/experienced crafters.

While it's rare, it still happens (to me) that __ prism is being sold on my server. Gilgamesh is one of the most populated server, yet there are times where I can't even buy it. I can't imagine how it might be like in lesser populated server.

I'm fine with there being glamour prisms for each DoH, but not with the various grades.

[Jacien]

I'm fine with there being glamour prisms for each DoH, but not with the various grades.

This would be the ideal thing to have. Would also be future proof for further expansions and would help simplify one of many things in the game that are complex for sake of being complex.

[Shurrikhan]

They're easy money, the easiest money in the game in fact. It doesn't even require camping, just throw some up every now and then and they usually always sell within the hour (unless it's a less popular brand like alchemy or woodworking then it might take a bit).

One person's easy money is another person's reluctant but habituated pain in the ass.

[Veerne]

More things -> more stuff to manage -> more content! Thousands of items to find, gather and use! Other games only have hundreds! Many games fall into the trap of adding needless complexity in order to make the game appear to have more depth, but in the end only manage to make it annoying to manage.

[Itseotle]

Pretty much this. it's relatively easy/ consistent gil for new crafters, but not really for older/experienced crafters.

While it's rare, it still happens (to me) that __ prism is being sold on my server. Gilgamesh is one of the most populated server, yet there are times where I can't even buy it. I can't imagine how it might be like in lesser populated server.

I'm fine with there being glamour prisms for each DoH, but not with the various grades.

While were at it lets get rid of those clear prisms and the use of crystals. We need a shard sink, not more crystal usage.

In an upcoming patch, we will be condensing the glamour prism system! In accordance with these changes, all retainers with Glamour Prisms posted to the Market Board will have them returned to there inventories. All 5 grades will be condensed into 1 grade, however each Disciple of the Hand class can only produce there own Prism. Additionally, to favor newer players, the recipe is being adjusted:


_________Before____________________After
Grade 1 Glamour Prism (LTW) -> Glamour Prism (LTW)
Grade 2 Glamour Prism (LTW) -> Glamour Prism (LTW)
Grade 3 Glamour Prism (LTW) -> Glamour Prism (LTW)
Grade 4 Glamour Prism (LTW) -> Glamour Prism (LTW)
Grade 5 Glamour Prism (LTW) -> Glamour Prism (LTW)

Recipe Before:
Crystal x2
Clear Prism x1
Crafting Mat x2


Recipe After:
Shard x20
Crafting Mat x3