5GP Every 3s Is Kind of Not Okay

[VertexGeneral]

I have to say that I agree with the original post. My main problems with GP are multi-faceted.

1. The total GP you need to burn to get a collectible of the rank high enough to actually turn in for blue and red scrips is insane. 600 GP minimum (a full set of ilvl 150 gear with a materia melded in for additional GP) to be able to get scrips as a miner or botanist. This means you burn your entire GP pool for each node. So you have to skip nodes because you can't even regen fast enough to get them all.
2. When you peek into an unspoiled node, even if you don't strike your first gathering attempt, it will disappear if you exit the node prematurely to let your GP regen. This is a serious problem when you accidentally click on the node when you aren't at full GP. I have missed out on over a half dozen nodes in the last 2 weeks because of this game breaking mistake in design.

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[VertexGeneral]

3. GP regens way too slow. Compare this to CP which regens 100% after every item crafted and it becomes clear that this is an unneeded burden on the gathering classes. We should regen to full as soon as we finish a node. If that is not going to happen then look at the following issues:
4. Cordials and Hi-Cordials share the same cool down. This is ridiculous on its face. They should be on separate cool downs. You have over 600GP to regen, but you can only regen a maximum of 400 per use. Why?
5. Cordials and Hi-Cordials have 4 minute cool downs. If you are not going to separate the cool downs for these items, and you are not going to regen our GP after each node, then at least make it so we can use the cordials and hi-cordials faster. It is an absolutely abysmal system to have to wait 4 minutes between node harvests because of a cool down on an item.

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[VertexGeneral]

Couple all of these issues together with the fact that by design Botany and Mining have a terrible return on Blue and Red Scrips compared to Fishing (I have seen fishers cap their red scrips in under 3 hours compared to miners/botanists who take 7 hours to cap). It's silly stupid and it needs to be redesigned.

If nothing else the GP bar needs to regen as fast as HP/MP/TP.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

Uhh ...

Blue Scrip were very easy for me to get. Granted, I DID have that 600 GP (between gear and melds, and food) but with the 2 game hours between the blue scrip nodes, it was easy enough to start at 10, gather those collectibles, move to the next collectibles at 12, wait for the GP to finish restoring, gather, then move to the collectibles at 2, wait for the GP, and gather.

With red scrips being capped at 95% gathering rate though, I need 650 GP, not just 600. And that is still quite doable, as long as you are in place for the 9 o'clock Chysahl. Gather, then move to the Adamantite node, wait for the GP to finish restoring, and then gather that.

I'm really not sure which nodes you are worried about skipping when it comes to scrip. Unless .. Are you trying to get red scrip on the Eventide Jade (or its botany equivalent)? 5 RCS per Collectible, with an expected yield of 1-3 per visit (depending on Impulsive props), compared to 2-4 per node, once every half hour, at 15 RCS per Collectible. You are looking at 60 minimum when going for both the Chysahl and Adamantite Collectibles, every half hour. That's not too much worse for Mining and Botany than what you've heard Fishing can do, without any of Fishing's RNG. Factor in the RNG, and it becomes even faster.

For all Collectibles, you want to get the highest yield at the lowest profitable Collectability rating. That is, if Chysahl Greens are 15 RGS at 470-499 Collectability, 16 RGS at 500-529 Collectability, and 18 RGS at 530+ Collectability, you want to get 2-4 at 15 RGS apiece rather than 1-3 at 16 or 18 RGS apiece. This gives you an overall greater amount of RGS for your time spent at the node.

Oh ya .. You do NOT need the i150 gear to get Blue Gathering Scrip . I was getting it just fine with level 55 gear. It would be rather ridiculous requiring level 60 gear to get a currency you use to get level 57 gear, would it not? To get the RGS, yes; BGS, no.
PS - you can get around the 1000 character limit by editing your post.

[Alisi]

You do NOT need the i150 gear to get Blue Gathering Scrip . I was getting it just fine with level 55 gear. It would be rather ridiculous requiring level 60 gear to get a currency you use to get level 57 gear, would it not? To get the RGS, yes; BGS, no.

Of course not but it helps. You forget that there are three gathering classes. Your first to 60 will naturally be the longest. After that, you have a lvl 60 that can get the 72 BGS for each item. Once your other classes have the 57 gear, they do just fine getting the 72 scrip collectables.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

You should be working Collectibles as your primary miner/botanist exp method once you hit 50/51. Getting BGS to get the gear comes naturally, and can be done with the level 55 set.

You really should be looking at getting some of the level 57 gear around the time you hit 57, maybe 58 on your FIRST gathering class, not your second. You can start getting the scrip at 56, after all.

[Culfinrandir]

With red scrips being capped at 95% gathering rate though, I need 650 GP, not just 600. And that is still quite doable, as long as you are in place for the 9 o'clock Chysahl. Gather, then move to the Adamantite node, wait for the GP to finish restoring, and then gather that.

Are you able to get a full 600 or 650 GP restoration between Chysal Greens & Adamantite Ore? I have always required a cordial between them but if there's a way to get it to restore naturally that would be beneficial.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

Are you able to get a full 600 or 650 GP restoration between Chysal Greens & Adamantite Ore? I have always required a cordial between them but if there's a way to get it to restore naturally that would be beneficial.

It is kind of tight, but it is quite doable. Start the Chysahl right after 9, finish quickly, and you will have to wait a bit at the Adamantite until you hit 650, but you then have time if you don't dawdle.

Personally, I don't do things that way - I wait for 550 GP at the Adamantite node and get 15 Adamantite Ores rather than a couple of collectibles, but it is quite doable to get Collectibles from both nodes without using a Cordial or High Cordial.

[chesnaught]

I have started gathering the Chysahl Greens even around 9:15 and had just enough time to get my 600 GP back for adamantite collectables just before the node disappeared. I used to use cordial every time just to be safe when I first started red scrips, but cordial is really better used for other things and I have saved a lot this way. If you can quickly do the red scrips rotation (it's almost subconscious at this point) then it's very doable.