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  1. #1471
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    Ashkendor's Avatar
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by nukemind View Post
    Today, leveling my my SCH. Wanted to have fun so said,
    "Hey my name is Keyalios, I will be your 3rd DPS, this is Eos, the healer. I can off heal, but she will pretty much be the primary healer."
    What did the tank say? "All hail Saint Eos, the best healer in all of Eorzea." And then Eos kept him pretty much topped up. It was only Hatali but it was amusing. Though she did steal aggro from him twice. He asked if he could give her a commendation XD.
    I sometimes tell people I'm an Arcanist with a broken Carbuncle or a Summoner with a confused Egi. xD
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  2. #1472
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    ExKage's Avatar
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    Heixin Xiaoshuita
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by nukemind View Post
    Today, leveling my my SCH. Wanted to have fun so said,
    "Hey my name is Keyalios, I will be your 3rd DPS, this is Eos, the healer. I can off heal, but she will pretty much be the primary healer."
    What did the tank say? "All hail Saint Eos, the best healer in all of Eorzea." And then Eos kept him pretty much topped up. It was only Hatali but it was amusing. Though she did steal aggro from him twice. He asked if he could give her a commendation XD.
    My FC lead is a wonderful scholar who essentially says "I'm not the healer, I'm a dps. *points to Eos* There's your healer." She says this jokingly because of course she heals but she knows how to mix in that damage dealing and the healing. I regularly WAR so Eos if my bff. Eos usually gets a /pet or hug from me XD

    I met a newbie warrior today in Cutter's Cry for leveling roulette as a machinist. Run's not going bad, but I notice that the tank likes to just pull and doesn't position the mobs so essentially we're always adjusting around the tank. 2nd boss, I notice the SCH running out of MP spamming adlo while dealing with the dot so I says "Leeches can get rid of the debuff." SCH mentions they don't have it, totally forgot about doing the quest, shrug and move on. Suggested that adlo spamming isn't the best way to recover hp in that situation, no biggie SCH's not mad and I'm not. We get to the golems and I decide it's time to suggest to the tank for better positioning. "Pls watch so we don't get cleaved" and their response was that a) We can just side step, b) I complain a lot as a dps ? (I complained once and this was it??) and c) pull the mobs on top of me deliberately. I let them know that not all cleaves are shown as aoes to be sidestepped.

    Tank kept following me even when I moved, and I think the WAR would have continued if the SCH didn't speak up and say "hes not whining hes just trying to help." After that the tank stopped, just pulled chimera before I could tell them about the mechanics and welp we had a great SCH who could cover for them getting hit by almost all of the Ram's Voices (of which we had more than the other). I was going to let them know that yes we can sidestep but that's only for attacks that can be telegraphed, positioning helps so that patrols aren't pulled by melee who are trying to do well, and that it lowers group performance when the tank doesn't do their job.

    I may be remembering when I died in Stone Vigil's last boss when I had blood for blood up, the tank had the boss face the arena instead of the corner, and I had a bunch of the frozen ground aoes in my way so I didn't move to the corner.... I got OHKO because of frost breath +blood for blood...
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    Last edited by ExKage; 01-22-2016 at 11:24 PM.

  3. #1473
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    Whiteroom's Avatar
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    T'erra Branford
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Had a fractal group last night that ran off as soon as I started casting protect. I just sttod there for a second wondering if I should leave.

    I decided to give them a chance. Maybe they were waiting before the first mobs for me... Nope, they just charged right in, no healer, no protect. So I walked slow and let them die.

    I figured that may be lesson enough, or that the would kick me as soon as time permitted, and they ran up and waited for protect this time. So I stuck around.

    We the dps were on point, but the WAR was definately a Fate dps tank. No idea what a defensive CD was, or how to step out of an AOE. He was just aweful, droping into deliverance while losing hate and the like. He died at least one more time as I couldn't be bothered to try very much for him.

    When healing, if the group runs off before protect, I always consider walking out right then.
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  4. #1474
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    SaitoHikari's Avatar
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    Saito Hikari
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 100
    I've been leveling my first tank class recently, a DRK mainly for the story. I have most of the necessary cross-class cooldowns, so I'd hope it'd make it easier on the healer to deal with my general incompetence. Though I haven't done anything that has led to a wipe yet, mostly just the odd losing aggro on one or two mobs per dungeon and all. In which I profusely apologize.

    Anyway, today I got Haukke Manor as my leveling roulette. I remembered during my very first run through the dungeon as a WHM, the tank then taught me that the final boss there can't actually successfully cast Void Fire/Thunder III if you move behind her while she's trying to cast those spells. Half a year later, I put that into use as my first time tanking the dungeon, and it worked amazingly. Although... Things kinda went to hell during add phase and the healer and one of the DPS got blown up. Not sure if I didn't grab adds fast enough or they got blown up by AoEs. D:
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    Last edited by SaitoHikari; 01-23-2016 at 03:10 AM.

  5. #1475
    Player Iagainsti's Avatar
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Zalera
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    Anyway, today I got Haukke Manor as my leveling roulette. I remembered during my very first run through the dungeon as a WHM, the tank then taught me that the final boss there can't actually successfully cast Void Fire/Thunder III if you move behind her while she's trying to cast those spells. Half a year later, I put that into use as my first time tanking the dungeon, and it worked amazingly. Although... Things kinda went to hell during add phase and the healer and one of the DPS got blown up. Not sure if I didn't grab adds fast enough or they got blown up by AoEs. D:
    Great isn't it? Most casts of Thunder can be avoided, I don't believe it works on Fire though, I'd have to test that out.
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  6. #1476
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    ExKage's Avatar
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    Heixin Xiaoshuita
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    Great isn't it? Most casts of Thunder can be avoided, I don't believe it works on Fire though, I'd have to test that out.
    Works for both Void Fire III and Void Thunder III in Haukke normal! It's been something I've tried to share with each tank I meet and the rest of the group. A lot of times though people will ignore it or say it doesn't matter...
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  7. #1477
    Player Iagainsti's Avatar
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExKage View Post
    Works for both Void Fire III and Void Thunder III in Haukke normal! It's been something I've tried to share with each tank I meet and the rest of the group. A lot of times though people will ignore it or say it doesn't matter...
    Because cool mitigation tips and tricks don't matter? People are weird.
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  8. #1478
    Player Fluestergras's Avatar
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    Aru Tirauland
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    Shiva
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    Great isn't it? Most casts of Thunder can be avoided, I don't believe it works on Fire though, I'd have to test that out.
    This sudden urge to try this out on my marauder. Not having Defiance sucks, did I tell you? No? Well... not having Defiance sucks! Specially on this one Haukke run I had today, had a lv60 WHM (urgh), a lv32 bard (uurgh) and a lv52 machinist (uuuuuuuuuuurgh) with me. All I thought was "shit". So I marked mobs, hoping the best, and of course the machinist didn't follow them. Yay. Asked them to follow marks. "Who cares". Ugh. Time to OP-spam the hell outta these mobs. So glad the marauder can cross-class Invigorate, and I really hope that Defiance will let me build up enough aggro so I don't need to spam OP anymore ._.

    TL;DR: An idiot feeling like a pro and behaving like shit because they're lv50+.
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  9. #1479
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    Lethallin's Avatar
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    Lethallin Ari
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    Siren
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    Warrior Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Fluestergras View Post
    So, I finally decided to tank A1, I was running it on paladin. During the first run, the other tank, a dark knight, was new to the duty, so I maintanked and explained everything I knew (which is pretty much what I read in this thread xD). Faust was fine, then we reached the Opressor, I told the OT that I'm gonna tank the boss south and that they shall provoke it away from me as soon as 0.5 appears so I can take 0.5 and hold it north. The provoke came a bit late, but it worked, hooray. Unfortunately the DPS was shittier than shit, Alarums died but at the wrong places to at least one rocket exploded after every single add phase. And the DPS was low. Really low. Even below low, I mean, I could use Divine Veil three times and Hallowed Ground twice. I have never seen the enrage in A1 before today, but here it was. At 26%. It was a shame. We had no chance but to call it.
    A1 normal HAS an enrage?

    Huh, imagine that.
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  10. #1480
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    FunkYeahDragons's Avatar
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    Cafe Miel
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    In all but two of the last ~10 leveling dungeons, we've wiped to trash at least once. Sometimes two, three, or four times. Most of these players weren't sprouts. At least the tank I pulled from with Blizzard 1 and Quelling Strikes was leveling his first job.

    Slow the hell down and pay attention. We're all tired of grinding, but this can either take 20-30 minutes or an hour.
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