3 BLMs, 1 BRD and no Foe's = Sadness

[Cnidarian]

I tend to find one of three types of BRD when I run DF:

The Desired BRD - Knows what songs to play and when to play them (extremely rare for me to find)

The Auto Pilot BRD - Just does attacks on auto with no songs being used

The I'm 1337 BRD - Plays songs at the wrong time and refuses to listen to advice on when best to use songs

I personally prefer the first BRD, don't mind getting the second BRD, absolutely hate the third BRD. I had Neverreap the other week as WHM. Our party comp was DRK, WHM, SMN, BRD. BRD was not using songs even after repeated requests from the SMN who eventually left. New DPS shows up who was a MNK and then the BRD starts using Foes between pulls and turns it off during pulls.

On Boss fghts, BRD was using Ballad saying that I (the WHM) needed mp (I dps heavily and will allow my mp to drop but I also am capable of managing my mp once I dip below 30%). Giving him the benefit of the doubt, I let him know that I'm fine on mp and he can turn ballad off. He then proceeds to lecture me on how he always uses ballad when healer mp drops below 75% and that it is better for all involved for him to use ballad in that situation. He also told me it wasn't just for my benefit but for the DRK as well. Both the DRK and myself correct him on this wrong assumption about DRK mp regen while Darkside is up.

We get to the final boss and again he pops ballad once I dip below 75% mp and I again tell him that it isn't needed and he could turn it off and if he wanted to play a song, Foe's would be preferred as it will boost the groups dps. He refused in party chat and told me that I (the WHM) needed it. After telling him I didn't and that with ballad off he could do more damage he finally turned it off with a reply of "Fine, I'll just let you go oom and won't play ballad when you need it".

After the boss dies, he continues to lecture me on how a BRD is played and that Ballad is super important to keep up when any healer or tank dips below 75% mp. I just sighed, made a joke about him in FC chat and had all of our FC BRD's die a little inside.

[Tizzy_Tormentor]

As I was levelling BLM, I was paired with many BRD's, not one sang Requiem, I stopped being excited when I get paired with BRD's now.

Levelling BRD myself, I love having a caster in the party, then I can sing it and get some good mileage out of it, if I see the healer lending some DPS, I sing, what else am I gonna sing? I use Paeon between pulls if me and another melee are going nuts.

Foes Requiem is a wonderful thing, I wish DF BRD's realized this...

[Jamillion]

You guys DO understand you can ask for songs right? I mean, wouldn't hurt, the worst thing that could happen is the bard says no or ignores your request and you're in the same boat you set sail in. But I guess that would take all of the fun out of complaining incessantly on the forums about how you always get grouped with scrubs, right?

[Kaurie]

You guys DO understand you can ask for songs right? I mean, wouldn't hurt, the worst thing that could happen is the bard says no or ignores your request and you're in the same boat you set sail in. But I guess that would take all of the fun out of complaining incessantly on the forums about how you always get grouped with scrubs, right?

Could ask for a song. I could expect my party members to ask for me to use Bane and Fester too, I guess. May as well start expecting the tank to ask for heals while we're at it.

[Jamillion]

Could ask for a song. I could expect my party members to ask for me to use Bane and Fester too, I guess. May as well start expecting the tank to ask for heals while we're at it.

I see the point went over your head. The point I'm trying to make is that people need to stop bringing every minor gripe to the forums when they've literally made no effort to correct the situation when it was happening. It's like going to the coffee shop and ordering a tea, if the barista gives you coffee instead why would you quietly drive home then post on tealovers.com about how baristas are morons and messed up your order when you could have had it fixed there.

[Naliee]

You guys DO understand you can ask for songs right? I mean, wouldn't hurt, the worst thing that could happen is the bard says no or ignores your request and you're in the same boat you set sail in. But I guess that would take all of the fun out of complaining incessantly on the forums about how you always get grouped with scrubs, right?

It's just it should be OBVIOUS to every BRD out there that if they are paired with SMN or BLM, it's Foe's Time.

And as for those BRDs that say they don't get comms when they are singing Foe's when with caster, I am one of those few people that comms you. As long as I'm not BEGGING for the goddamn Foe.

[Kaurie]

I see the point went over your head. The point I'm trying to make is that people need to stop bringing every minor gripe to the forums when they've literally made no effort to correct the situation when it was happening. It's like going to the coffee shop and ordering a tea, if the barista gives you coffee instead why would you quietly drive home then post on tealovers.com about how baristas are morons and messed up your order when you could have had it fixed there.

I don't see why you wouldn't do that. Forums are a great place to vent, share frustrations, discuss opinions and debate. This fits in nicely with that. Making the assumption that no one ever asks for Foe's is also a bit faulty. I'm not sure you nor I could state that every person who has complained about lack of Foes on this thread has never asked for it.

[FoxyAreku]

Had a bard start the fight with Army's Paeon once.

WHY?

[Kuwagami]

I see the point went over your head. The point I'm trying to make is that people need to stop bringing every minor gripe to the forums when they've literally made no effort to correct the situation when it was happening. It's like going to the coffee shop and ordering a tea, if the barista gives you coffee instead why would you quietly drive home then post on tealovers.com about how baristas are morons and messed up your order when you could have had it fixed there.

I just wanted to point out that if people had the basic etiquette on a MMO (aka, reading one's skills to know what they do, and behaving like a civilized human and not like a 8 yo kid who thinks you have to trash someone who doesn't agree with you), 99% of the minor gripes brought onto the forums wouldn't ever happen.

But in these days, you can't even expect that minimum anymore

[Jamillion]

I don't see why you wouldn't do that. Forums are a great place to vent, share frustrations, discuss opinions and debate. This fits in nicely with that. Making the assumption that no one ever asks for Foe's is also a bit faulty. I'm not sure you nor I could state that every person who has complained about lack of Foes on this thread has never asked for it.

It reeks of social ineptitude and the inability to handle minor communication with another human beings, I can't even say conflict because chances are the bard would have just said "ok" or "sorry" and turned it on. I didn't say everyone who posted here never asked but it's clear that the OP didn't and do we really need a whine thread every 5 minutes about these things? Especially when there have been several that this could have been posted in?