Relic: Your progress on the Grind.

[Greedalox]

That is part of my frustration with these unidentifiable items - the Poetics. Roulettes give none unless you're running Main Story, which I'm sick of. So, then you're stuck spamming old dungeons.

And then you have people complaining that old dungeons have no value.

[NorthernLadMSP]

And then you have people complaining that old dungeons have no value.

That is not something I complain about. However, I don't want to run old HM dungeons 272 times just to get these pieces.

[Greedalox]

That is not something I complain about. However, I don't want to run old HM dungeons 272 times just to get these pieces.

I did say people. I'm saying that every given decision and change will have people happy and upset. You said you didn't like running old content for pieces, and then there are people who are upset that old content has no use. I just find it funny, I guess it is forum fuel.

[Aldora]

And then you have people complaining that old dungeons have no value.

It's funny though. The Aetherochemical Research Facility is currently not available through the Roulettes, but the dungeon itself gives 120 Law Tomes. If you get a player in that dungeon, that's an additional 40 to 60 Law Tomes. So, it's a pretty good place to farm Law Tomes for the Relic, but not that people run that dungeon.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

It's funny though. The Aetherochemical Research Facility is currently not available through the Roulettes, but the dungeon itself gives 120 Law Tomes. If you get a player in that dungeon, that's an additional 40 to 60 Law Tomes. So, it's a pretty good place to farm Law Tomes for the Relic, but not that people run that dungeon.

No one runs it because it's too long. People will happily zerg hunts or Alexander, despite the low payout, because you can do these runs fairly quickly and the tomes gained add up.

[RyuDragnier]

No one runs it because it's too long. People will happily zerg hunts or Alexander, despite the low payout, because you can do these runs fairly quickly and the tomes gained add up.

They also don't run it because it has not been put in a roulette. Why go out of your way to do it when there's no guarantee you'll get a fast queue because only newbies are running it? Add it to the level 60 dungeon roulette. There, people will run it, newbies get help, and we all get the payout. Plus then we'd have something to run other than Fractal or Neverreap for the 200th time.

[Aldora]

No one runs it because it's too long. People will happily zerg hunts or Alexander, despite the low payout, because you can do these runs fairly quickly and the tomes gained add up.

So far, the Alexander runs have been a hit or miss, not really making it worth the hassle unless you have a PF party going. You'd need to run an Alexander floor 6 times (without New Player bonus, if you can even get that in Alexander) in order to get the 120 Law Tomes the Aetherochemical Research Facility dungeon gives. Let's say each Alexander floor takes an average of 6 minutes to complete, then you'd take around 36 minutes to complete. On top of that, you'd have 6 Percision items. The Aetherochemical Research Facility runs i did took 25 to 30 minutes to complete and each run so far had 1 new player in it.

So, personally, i'd rather run Aetherochemical Research Facility then any of the Alexander floors as their rewards are similar from my point of view. (^_^ )