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  1. #11
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_ View Post
    Eh, couldn't the MNK live through the DPS add-phase tether? Fist of Earth + SS + Adlo + Apocatastasis + i210 left side with some VIT right sides.

    In fact, I don't know why you used a DRG as the tank replacement and not MNK. The MNK also has MRD CC skills, has fists of earth, and doesn't have an enmity dump.
    Monks have garbage vitality and take a much higher DPS loss when forced to tank. With some fairly fanatic healing, you could legitimately keep Blood for Blood up on a Dragoon due to its later buff. You can't on a monk.
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  2. #12
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    ScarletDawn's Avatar
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    Ok im gonna crash the party, not really solo tanking if a Dps has to off tank a mechanic...and tbh you could still bring a Warrior along, they put out dare i say more DPS then a Ninja in their new dps stance, in fact Dps war is pretty dam good.

    Again its not solo if you need a dps to off tank, if you wanna call it true solo the tank needs to take all the mechanics.

    Just saying.
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  3. #13
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    Ok im gonna crash the party, not really solo tanking if a Dps has to off tank a mechanic...and tbh you could still bring a Warrior along, they put out dare i say more DPS then a Ninja in their new dps stance, in fact Dps war is pretty dam good.

    Again its not solo if you need a dps to off tank, if you wanna call it true solo the tank needs to take all the mechanics.

    Just saying.
    You're reading way too much into the phrase 'solo tank' there, chief. It just means you have one tank in the party.

    Next thing you're gonna tell us is that SCH can't technically solo heal unless they dismiss their fairy.
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  4. #14
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    If your going to brag about solo tanking, then yes ill be picky because just claiming solo tank for only having 1 tank class is rubbish you can do that with any fight and then claim solo tank we are the best, as for the sch thing any idiot knows the fairy + sch heal pretty much equates to a Cure 2, and the fairy is about 40% of the healing potential for a sch, with the new HW skills sch needs the fairy more then ever.

    Anyways A3s wont really be one where u can solo tank, better to have the warrior as well they do still crank out about the same dps as a monk with stre items equipped while having 20k+ hp as a buffer. A full Vit paladin who barely kept enmity is not efficient and id rather people didnt get the mind set of we should be using only 1 tank because X did it.

    Just more concerned with the mentality of raiders thinking its ok to single tank and ditch warriors and dks...


    Solo tanks are great but people need to remember this is only possible with HIGH gear, the amount of times i see scrub tanks in bad gear try tank these raids is insane.
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    Last edited by ScarletDawn; 01-15-2016 at 10:02 PM.

  5. #15
    Player Fourbestintoner's Avatar
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    Melodiane Valerian
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    PLD too OP, can solo tank A3S, nerf pls, buff WAR.
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  6. #16
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    Amethyst Foxe
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    I'm also worried about raiders mentality after reading your post Scarlet. I hope the majority here understands that this was just for fun and is not the best way to kill the boss. Yes we did have a Drg take one of the hands for about 30 seconds of the 11min long fight, because otherwise it's impossible as you stated. So yeah solo tanking meaning we brought one tank in the party.

    With your logic t13 wasnt solo tank if you had a dps soak akh morrn with the tank. And a4s will never be solo tankable because a dps would have to tank the add in isolation.

    If someone went into a1s with a drg tanking one of the bosses for the whole fight i would lol.

    "just claiming solo tank for only having 1 tank class is rubbish you can do that with any fight and then claim solo tank we are the best"
    Lol, doing any fight with 1 tank class is hard, not gonna say impossible. But thats exactly the point. And where did someone claim they are the best? You shouldn't be this mad over a game bro. Enjoy it
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmethystFoxe View Post
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    Im not trying to ruin the achievement of the OP and their raid, i just fear like with titan extreme people will suddenly get the mentality that it must be done solo tanked because X group did it..suddenly everyone starts doing it solo, this really puts more pressure on healers, also the Pally was full vit build. Now a good 95% of raiding paladins will not bother with meld gear or even bother to meld gear full stop, and getting a full set of grade 5(w/e level diadem on is) vit is a pain the in ass.

    Just dont want people to get that mentality like they did with Turn 5 and Turn 9...
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    Scarlet is conveniently forgetting that the PLD took drainage in phase 4 as well as taking every fluid swing.

    Qualifies as solo tanking to me considering you generally want a tank swap after every cascade. Good job DSIS!
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    Im not trying to ruin the achievement of the OP and their raid, i just fear like with titan extreme people will suddenly get the mentality that it must be done solo tanked because X group did it..suddenly everyone starts doing it solo, this really puts more pressure on healers, also the Pally was full vit build. Now a good 95% of raiding paladins will not bother with meld gear or even bother to meld gear full stop, and getting a full set of grade 5(w/e level diadem on is) vit is a pain the in ass.

    Just dont want people to get that mentality like they did with Turn 5 and Turn 9...
    I would have a bit more faith in the community. Most players reading / watching will realize with the way A3S is designed, it's more optimal to go double tank and that this was intended more of a challenge than naught.

    Mechanically, Turn 5 and Turn 9 did little to encourage any double tank scenario so it became optimal to take a 5th DPS to increase kill speed. Faster kills = less healing requirement, less potential risk, etc etc.

    So, I don't think you have anything to fear in this respect.

    @OP - I didn't watch the video myself yet, but congrats on the achievement~ Always good to hear players stepping up to a challenge and seeing if they can complete it.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    I would have a bit more faith in the community. Most players reading / watching will realize with the way A3S is designed, it's more optimal to go double tank and that this was intended more of a challenge than naught.

    Mechanically, Turn 5 and Turn 9 did little to encourage any double tank scenario so it became optimal to take a 5th DPS to increase kill speed. Faster kills = less healing requirement, less potential risk, etc etc.

    So, I don't think you have anything to fear in this respect.
    Well faith in the community has slipped quite a bit since certain threads have popped up. Mainly ones the have a dig at us healers but hey cant stop those ill just ignore the healer sections... Yes i know turn 5 and turn 9 didnt challenge us in any way to require 2 tanks, but A3s seems more ideal with at least the warrior, i mean having sunder on the drg really isnt ideal they could have a better skill to increase dps.

    P.S On an offtopic note what was the Parser used? That looks alot better then the first one that popped up where you have to be in windowed mode.
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