The arrogance of some people

[Remus]

100 pages we done it guys!

[Eothas]

It's not required, so I'll not help, no matter what!11! It's never my fault!1111111!

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That's what I understood reading your posts, after all the sugar coat ofc.

100 pages we done it guys!

Finally. 200 is the new goal.

[Kurogaea]

Insinuating that if the healer doesn't heal the group and everyone dies due to lack of heals then its never their fault.

Think before you type, also why don't you study the other posts before spouting drivel you don't even understand?

[Judah_Brandt]

Actually I did, but you still made it seem like Healers make it harder for everyone else.



If you don't need us then why are we making it harder for you?

If you state that Healer DPS is a luxury, it could be assumed that the reason you refer to it as a luxury is what? That it makes the DPS check easier to meet. Therefore the conclusion may be drawn that if a healer is actively choosing not to DPS when completely capable of doing so then they would, in fact, be making things more difficult for the other players as their margin of error decreases. Thus, the statement that you are actively making things more difficult for the group directly correlates with your capability to deal damage and heal actively as opposed to not utilizing the time available to you in order to do so. If you can't comprehend that, I don't know what else to say.

[Iagainsti]

TBH I fail to see the irony since healers have the tools to do so. I feel the word you were looking for is "AMAZING"

Agreed! That's how I feel as a MT Warrior also xD

Gratz! This Thread hit 100!

[Dante_V]

Hmm, healer/tank dps was a requirement to clear savage on release as the dps check was higher than the total potential of the dps jobs at the ilvl (180-190 & Ravana/law weapons) at that point.

And while it's not required at this point, savage necessitates not only responsibility to your role, but maximizing your jobs potential. People who refuse to maximize their ability for no other reason than (I don't feel like it) aren't really going to make it very far in savage raids and there are many players available who are willing to replace those who are not.

All that being said, outside of savage it doesn't really matter that much as everything is passable without it.

[Eothas]

Think before you type, also why don't you read the other posts before spouting drivel you don't even understand?

Why don't you read the thread before trying to look smart? I already said 1000x that if you need to heal first, then you should do so. You are trying to justify your lack of DPS though, after reading your posts sounds like you don't DPS at all. Instead of helping your team, you hide behind a green icon. sad.

[Judah_Brandt]

Why don't you read the thread before trying to look smart? I already said 1000x that if you need to heal first, then you should do so. You are trying to justify your lack of DPS though, after reading your posts sounds like you don't DPS at all. Instead of helping your team, you hide behind a green icon. sad.

We're friends now.

[Kurogaea]

Misconception

Well that sounds better, but maybe you understood me wrong, again. If I state healer dps is a luxury, then that would mean you don't need it, it just makes things easier for others. Never means I won't do it, or that theirs no reason to which I don't understand why it's so hard to grasp that concept.

Thordan EX for example, if I have time to dps I would, like that one knight charging its attack and needs to be lowered to a certain amount of hp, yep, I'd help with that, massive time gap for me to attack and prep for oncoming attacks. As for in more intense moments I'd decide to take priorities. Healing above damage output. Period. What your assuming is healers "purposely make it harder", in which I can't speak for everyone, but if I'm saving mana for later heals then its for good reason, not "purposely making harder for others". From what you make it sound like is that if a dps can cast a heal spell to keep the tank alive, then that dps is lazy for not using their ability to heal when its available to them. Do you understand now?

Why don't you read the thread before trying to look smart? I already said 1000x that if you need to heal first, then you should do so. You are trying to justify your lack of DPS though, after reading your posts sounds like you don't DPS at all. Instead of helping your team, you hide behind a green icon. sad.

If I'm healing and there's plenty of time between heals (and i don't mean 1-5 secs) I'd switch to cleric stance and cast a stone or two with a dot.

Uh, actually I do dps, I said like twice in my previous posts. ^ read above post too

[Judah_Brandt]

You keep retreading your side of the conversation and backtracking on what you said. You just admitted that a healer DPSing makes things easier. I stated that if you have the option to do so, such as when I specifically said that when you are not utilizing the time available to you to do so, you are in fact actively choosing not to. Not making things easier by choice is equivalent to making things more difficult. They're literally two ways to say the same exact thing. At no point did I say that you had to make a choice between circumstances which would require you to heal or DPS. That is something you somehow construed out of thin air in order to pad your argument.

If you have time to deal damage, barring circumstances that would require you not to, and you choose not to then you are making things more difficult. Do not use small quotes followed by a bunch of misrepresentation as to what I actually said. It makes you seem foolish because you're taking everything out of context and applying it to what you just described as a completely different scenario. If you can't DPS, why would I say you're bad for it? I specifically stated that it only applies to the times where you can. You offering your own interpretation of what I said and representing it as what I said makes you look like a biased idiot.