Fishing... we need to talk.

[Harz]

only problems I have as a fisher :

=> Patience buff wearing off, removing the possibility to power/precision hook BUT still retains the botched rates. meh.

=> the hard caps on big fishing and legendary fishing. My lv60 fisher shouldn't have the same 5% chance to get a fish than a lv50 fisher, because his percep and gathering are way higher now.

=> the 15% HQ is slightly annoying for double mooch but other gatherers have it too. I'd like it to be upped a bit but if not that's fine. There aren't that many double mooch fish anyway

=> moing removes all of your buffs, wasting all of your TPs. No. Or remove the possibility to move when your rod is casted. That's just annoying.

I'd add on Precision Hookset costing more than Powerful Hookset, but yeah I'm mostly fine with fishing outside of some qol stuff.

[Tint]

=> the 15% HQ is slightly annoying for double mooch but other gatherers have it too. I'd like it to be upped a bit but if not that's fine. There aren't that many double mooch fish anyway

i don't have any real numbers but i am pretty shure if you mooch a fish the HQ chance is increased. feels like 50% HQ and back then when i was farming silver sharks (wich you can only catch with mooch) it was always very close to 50/50 NQ/HQ fish i have caught. and i caught hundreds :x

[Kuwagami]

I don't have any data as I don't take notes as I fish (I should ! D: ), but the feeing is about 50% on the mooched fish yeah. What's annoying is the 15% on the first one when you have to get a second one behind, which may or may not be exclusive, and then may or may not be exclusive of your target. Especially annoying with fishes bitting at their own mooch, ou biting at every step of the mooch chain.

[AnduinLynn]

The rng for big fish is part of the fun for me. I find it really exciting to check the weathers in each area in hopes of an opportunity opening up, then travelling to the area and going through fish after fish until suddenly the rod goes still and the once regular intervals of catching seem to stall for a moment. Then, all at once, a huge tug comes in as your anticipation is high, and suddenly all of the patience has paid off.

Even if you fail (and trust me I have like 8 g.takitaros and not one namitaro yet), the excitment of wanting to catch the fish and overcome the challenge is enough for me at least.

And on fish not being worth much, I feel like there are plenty of money fish already. Pipira Pira, Hammerheads, Silver sharks, Sawfish, Ninja Betta. Take your pick and cast your line.

I feel the system is fine for now.

[Granyala]

I agree with the OP except for the "make fish bite faster".
I think 5-10 seconds is okay. It enables you to actually watch something on a second monitor.

The RNG is ridiculous though. Esp that fish constantly escapes when you use patience, whether I use a hookset or not doesn't seem to make any difference at all lol.

[TaleraRistain]

I would love if the fishing log would indicate which bait to use once you have caught the fish. Then I wouldn't need to keep the Fishing Log on Gamerescape open all the time when I'm working on leves, leveling, or fishing quests.

And having spent 3 hours trying to get icepicks tonight so I can get the Cloudfishing skill and actually be able to do my GC daily without a single one to show for it, I can agree with many of your ideas about more focusing toward specific fish with bait and the woes of RNG.

I also agree that there should be more value to doing fishing. Right now it is the red-headed stepchild of the gathering classses. I enjoy it, but it is not held to the same status as miner and botanist and with a few tweaks it could be.

[vigioX-Sun]

How about the fishing folklore books?,
I think they should make them a little more useful. Or better say make fish in general more useful.

[Silverbane]

I would love if the fishing log would indicate which bait to use once you have caught the fish. Then I wouldn't need to keep the Fishing Log on Gamerescape open all the time when I'm working on leves, leveling, or fishing quests.

Have you tried Cat Became Hungry ? It's a crowd-sourced compendium of everything related to fishing in FFXIV. My wife highly recommends it.

[Granyala]

And having spent 3 hours trying to get icepicks tonight so I can get the Cloudfishing skill and actually be able to do my GC daily without a single one to show for it, I can agree with many of your ideas about more focusing toward specific fish with bait and the woes of RNG.

Oo You must have fished at the wrong place.
They don't bite well but they aren't THAT scarce, after all they are a direct catch if I am not mistaken.
I fished them up in half an hour with the Lv 51 insect lure you can buy in western coerthas at Western coerthas; unfrozen pond.

I can recommend the site Silverbane linked. It has virtually all the information you could possibly need.

I agree though that being dependent on such a site is ludicrous game design. FF tells you waaay to little about the fish you want even after you caught it.

[AnduinLynn]

I do think that integrating all of the tools that are included on CBH should be implemented into the fishing log in game. Things like weather cycles, lure, and time frame should be available perhaps by an npc in the village nearby the fishing hole. This could make small talk and investigating npcs more worthwhile rather than ignoring them all the time. Once caught, the data could then be added to the person's log.