WTF?! thats harassment, I hope you reconsiderer to report that DRG, PLD is just fine!, no one have any right to tell you what job to play.It's moments like this that makes me reconsider tanking...
We get to the first boss, clear it without any problems, and on the run from the boss room to the next trash I see this message:
"Go kill urself PLD"
And then I get vote kicked. Considered reporting the guy, but honestly I doubt anything would happen because I foresee this being factored under "playstyle differences."
It's moments like this that makes me reconsider tanking...
Did my EX Roulette (PS Hard) on my PLD today. Now, I know PLD isn't in the best of shape, but outside of anything savage it hardly matters. Even with the gear now, PLD is incredibly viable in savage.
However, one the DPS in my group (a DRG) gave me crap from the get go about how PLD was trash, had no AoE dmg, and how I queued on PLD solely to slow down other people's runs. I respond by telling him that I just prefer the aesthetic of PLD and enjoy tanking. We get to the first boss, clear it without any problems, and on the run from the boss room to the next trash I see this message:
"Go kill urself PLD"
And then I get vote kicked. Considered reporting the guy, but honestly I doubt anything would happen because I foresee this being factored under "playstyle differences."Yes, that is in no way anything but harassment.
The vote kick was uncalled for, but that message is just plain harassment and should be reported.
Before HW came out, i was in Urth's Fount, we get wiped a couple times, and everyone starts trying to plan/teach the mechanics (there were some newbies who didn't know the fight). While a tank, a healer, and myself (dps) are telling the new players what's what, the other tank chimes in and starts callin' out specific people, mainly dps (including myself, who had a ilvl90 weapon at the time [and everything else was Ironworks gear, btw]), to change to higher ilvl weapons. We all go "haha, very funny, yo" and commence with plotting...but he keeps it up. "You, your bow sucks, switch to a higher weapon" "You too, blm, switch to a higher weapon". It was at that moment we realized that, somehow, he was actually frickin' serious. Because, you know, people go around using lower lvl weapons when they have better ones cuz they feel like it, especially when fighting ODIN...
We told him, "Dude, uh...nobody has higher weapons. Also, it's your ilvl that matters, all your gear adds to your dmg." He wasn't buyin' it. "Weapon does the damage, and we won't be able to do this with these weapons..." Now, mind you, someone was using an ifrit weapon, but even they had ilvl 120 gear on otherwise. Guy wouldn't give it up. We just tried to ignore him, but eventually we all got sick of it, and Odin lived to slay another day. Don't know if the guy was just havin' a "jolly time" bein' a troll or what, but dang, you almost hope that's what he was up to...
Last edited by BlatantPyre; 01-07-2016 at 01:53 PM.
This happened ages ago, back when Amdapor Keep(HM) was in the Expert Roulette, but I saw I still had it saved from back when I was showing other people what had happened so I edited the names out and decided to post it here. This was frustrating to the point that I almost began to doubt myself because his little healer buddy was on his side and the tank just made a scoffing remark that was incredibly stupid.
(The initial comments about Paeon being for scrubs I overlooked. I had assumed he was just a loudmouth that was bragging about our ~~**~amazing~**~~ and mutual TP conservation abilities until he brought it up again later).
So I am assuming he didn't notice that he had a damage reduction when using it, I am still unsure as to just why he couldn't have used the song on his own if he needed it that badly - outside of using any excuse to exercise his amazing (though incorrect) knowledge of the class over us other, plebeian Bards -, and I am guessing that he was so blinded by his own awesomeness that he forgot how to manage TP or realise that Invigorate was a thing.
Even though the Tank only said one thing, it's sheer stupidity got on my nerves. At the time I felt like commenting that maybe I should just avoid using damage buffs altogether too, since apparently even mentioning a Bard's damage is a joke in itself.
Last edited by Knahli; 01-07-2016 at 02:03 PM.
Wow...So I am assuming he didn't notice that he had a damage reduction when using it, I am still unsure as to just why he couldn't have used the song on his own if he needed it that badly - outside of using any excuse to exercise his amazing (though incorrect) knowledge of the class over us other, plebeian Bards -, and I am guessing that he was so blinded by his own awesomeness that he forgot how to manage TP or realise that Invigorate was a thing.
Even though the Tank only said one thing, it's sheer stupidity got on my nerves. At the time I felt like commenting that maybe I should just avoid using damage buffs altogether too, since apparently even mentioning a Bard's damage is a joke in itself.
I play BRD as one of my main jobs, and the belief they can't DPS is rather annoying. I've out dmg'd most other jobs at times, and have seen others do the same. Not saying it's NIN or BLM, but...it can get the job done, and quickly if you know what you're doing...love that River of Blood...
But yeah, wow, that guy...honestly, just laugh at the absurdity. There are only very specific times when a BRD should use any of the songs, you were in the right. Gotta wonder if he was trollin'...better than being "mentally challenged", I suppose.
Got Pharos in level 50 roulette. Wiped 3 times on the first boss do to the tank and both DRG's standing in aoe and getting stacks. I spoke up and things improved each time, so no biggie.
Second boss, I admit I have never fully understood it. From what I remember, you kill one of the eggs that's about to hatch, but let the other hatch and kill the add. No one touched the eggs at all, and the boss kept using its flatten move. Nothing cure 3 couldn't handle... but it did it back to back and we wiped.
Tank thoughtfully suggested that I needed to heal more. I politely said that there was a way to prevent him from using that ability, but admitted I wasn't completely sure what it was. Only that it involved the eggs. So then the tank starts killing all the eggs, which I thought I remembered made the boss go bonkers, but it went a lot better and we killed it.
Up until now, the tank had only been pulling one group at a time, which was fine. But randomly, on the stair case he decides to pull everything. Once we are at the top of the steps, I see a sprite doing its long cast, so I prepare cure 3. Only I was a little too late and a little too close to the tank, and got interrupted. Saw that another was casting, and ran away from the tank and used swiftcast and cure 3. And apparently lagged, cause it didn't go off right away. Both of the DRG's died. One released to the start, and I raised the other.
Then the tank decides to take it all back down the stairs. We get to the bottom, and the drg that I had raised was being beat up by something at the top. Honestly can't remember if he died. Was too busy trying to keep the tank alive and occasionally being interrupted by some slime babies that he didn't have hate on. Somehow, the tank and I survived the entire thing, though he never did stun a single sprite. And things weren't dying fast enough and were too chaotic for me to stun them with holy.
Finally we get to Siren. No big deal here. Tank never stuns lunatic voice, but that's easy enough to heal through as long as there isn't multiple healing debuffs.
Funny thing, when you run into people that act like that, 90% of the time they're eso gear princesses that don't know their own rotation from their ass, haven't set foot in Savage, and wouldn't know a good tank if one smacked them upside the head.
If he's that unhappy about ending up with a PLD tank in roulette, he should queue with a WAR/DRK instead of abusing people. When you queue up in DF, you take a risk that you'll end up with undergeared people, unskilled people, odd party compositions, etc. It's unfortunate that you just happened to end up with an asshole DRG that's used to being carried.
The fact that he told you to kill yourself puts that firmly in the "harassment" category.We get to the first boss, clear it without any problems, and on the run from the boss room to the next trash I see this message:
"Go kill urself PLD"
And then I get vote kicked. Considered reporting the guy, but honestly I doubt anything would happen because I foresee this being factored under "playstyle differences."
I honestly hope you change your mind and file a report.
I'd quote, but I'm on mobile and am too lazy to edit now.
I agree that I hope you report him. Even if nothing is done right away, it should count as a strike against him, and if he keeps that behavior up, he will be one strike closer to being banned.
Look back at my post. Said I'm a geared healer. i206 to be exact.Just in all honestly...I've found it easiest to deal with the Slimes if the Healer deals with them and lets the DPS just kill the boss (I think that's actually the general assumption for that fight; healer deals with slimes). If you pick them up as soon as they spawn and kill them on the vents asap, the mechanic is a non-issue.
I'm going to assume that you're close to min ilv for the dungeon? My healers are under i200, and I can DPS most of the fight and deal with slimes.
The DPS definitely could have helped out on the first boss, and were a bit rude. But...especially if everyone is geared...people are going to assume you can deal with a faster run and do more than stand around and heal occasionally with little DPSing.
And when other people are suddenly taking significant damage, sorry, I would much rather heal than deal with the adds and let someone die. Also doesn't help when DPS pull a stunt like that NIN and grab the slime, drag it around (long enough for me to tell him where to kill it THREE TIMES), and then kill it in the wrong spot, causing others to spawn.
I'm geared, but I'm one person, and I'm a healer, so I don't have the survivability of a tank. Especially when you factor in interruptions to my casts. (Got unlucky with that one for that fight.)
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I've never met a group with the expectation that healers should deal with the slimes. It's always been the dps job. If they don't handle it, as WAR I handle it myself.Look back at my post. Said I'm a geared healer. i206 to be exact.
And when other people are suddenly taking significant damage, sorry, I would much rather heal than deal with the adds and let someone die. Also doesn't help when DPS pull a stunt like that NIN and grab the slime, drag it around (long enough for me to tell him where to kill it THREE TIMES), and then kill it in the wrong spot, causing others to spawn.
I'm geared, but I'm one person, and I'm a healer, so I don't have the survivability of a tank. Especially when you factor in interruptions to my casts. (Got unlucky with that one for that fight.)
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