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  1. #61
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    Knahli's Avatar
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    K'nahli Yohko
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 89
    Quote Originally Posted by Nirokun View Post
    Line of sight them and escape (good for any ranged), or wait for them to draw closer and sprint next to them, their ranged penalty nerfs their dmg hard, and with no defensive cooldowns, you can burn them quick. Everyone has a weakness.
    Haha. Honestly, I can't recall any Bard or Machinist giving me much trouble in PvP so I don't tend to given them a second thought when I spot them. I've only seemed to have had one up and close encounter with a Machinist who went out of his way to 1v1 me when I just wasn't interested, but when he was leaving me little choice I just ended up bursting him down really quickly even after his small lead in damage and after he got his stuns and silences in(or whatever those disables were); so my limited experience with them didn't give me very much to go on. Then again, everyone is saying BLMs are deadly but I don't seem to notice them very much either. Just annoying Summoners and their Sprint-casts ;;; I guess in my experience they just don't seem to pay too much attention to me unless I'm in the middle of the crowd and/or being stun-locked.
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    Last edited by Knahli; 01-07-2016 at 05:39 AM.

  2. #62
    Player Vaeria's Avatar
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    Bastok/ S. Gustaburg...now and always.
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    Character
    Devil Panzerfaust
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 80
    Exactly why I dropped brd. To its credit..mch can at least counterburst with grauss up while still running for its life. Brd has no choice but to take it raw all the way home when someone closes...
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  3. #63
    Player Houston009's Avatar
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    Straigus Rheyist
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    Jenova
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    Pugilist Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Nirokun View Post
    Line of sight them and escape (good for any ranged), or wait for them to draw closer and sprint next to them, their ranged penalty nerfs their dmg hard, and with no defensive cooldowns, you can burn them quick. Everyone has a weakness.
    The penalty for being closer to players w/ WM/GB active isn't at harsh as you may think anymore.
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  4. #64
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    Nirokun's Avatar
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    Nirokun Moon
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Houston009 View Post
    The penalty for being closer to players w/ WM/GB active isn't at harsh as you may think anymore.
    I usually play smn, and unless I'm caught unawares (which does happen sometimes and I'm swirling the camera to find them while looking at minimap), I usually can manage as my burst is practiced and very fast. That being said, there have been some very talented MCH who have bursted me down before I could do anything, but more often than not I usually get away because I know what they can do and the gun-shot sounds are distinctive. It's the same reason I don't like to give any indication I'm around when I play smn, nothing but Tri-disaster to let you know I'm about to ruin your day. Don't give them the chance to react and you're more likely to secure the kill.
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    "Dream lofty dreams, and as you dream, so you shall become." - James Lane Allen

  5. #65
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    abbas's Avatar
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    Character
    Sweaty Eyelids
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    Someone mentioned DRK / PLD?

    I could align them with my DRG >_>"

    http://i.imgur.com/MS3IWD4.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/T0Mc6uG.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/JxQtYt9.jpg
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    Last edited by abbas; 01-07-2016 at 10:41 PM.

  6. #66
    Player Houston009's Avatar
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    Straigus Rheyist
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    Jenova
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    Pugilist Lv 81
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    Last edited by Houston009; 01-08-2016 at 05:56 AM.

  7. #67
    Player
    Geologo's Avatar
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    Character
    Leinas Kroma
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tarta View Post
    As a BLM 50% of the time, I try and find other BLM, since BLM are the easiest kills.
    72 man BLM is dumb.
    As BLM I hate to kill BLMs XD
    Expecially because if I saw a BLM focus me, I just move a bit and he will be probably out of range, also we have manaward, instant sleep, a trashy Letargy.
    When I have Equanimity I think Bards are far more eatable, or Tanks when they think they can rush in the mid of a party alone and they basially allow u to PvE rotation them, a critted Fire IV hit for 4500 Hp without damage mitigation buffs.
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  8. #68
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    Storm Rider
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    Balmung
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    Miner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Holicccc View Post
    Blackmage in the right hands is a pretty damn scary class, monk can make summoner pretty useless by taking all their stacks in pretty rapid succession I might add (one elm punch)
    I like to think of Monks as the anti SCH class. But the quality of monks at 60 isn't as good as it was at 50.

    For Healing if we are setting tiers AST and SCH can't be on the same level. AST is the best all around. A good AST can way out heal a good sch. It is pretty hard for schs to break 1 million healing. While ast can do it regularly and WHMs can break 2 million.

    How are we ranking each class heals, tankiness, usefulness, pure kills, pure dps? I would actually prefer a full vit drk in contested 72s over the other tanks. They are hell to put down and they have the best interrupt.
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  9. #69
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    Storm Rider
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    Balmung
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    Miner Lv 60
    How did you get 21 kills in a 24 man? I know you are good but healers would have to be non existent to let that happen. Makes me wonder what a 24 man no healers no warriors match would be like.
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  10. #70
    Player Houston009's Avatar
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    Straigus Rheyist
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    Jenova
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    Pugilist Lv 81
    Fell cleave made them non-existent :P
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