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    Player Kaurie's Avatar
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    did i ever said anything else? i am dpsing on my healer, so i am one of the GOOD healers ( yay ^^/ ). and because there is no argument against this... WHY DO YOU HAVE TO REPEAT IT OVER MORE THAN 50 PAGES THAT HEALERS SHOULD DPS? just for self-congratulation... there is NO other reason.
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    Just so you are aware, you are adding to the length of this thread by complaining about it. It's even less on topic than the self-congratulation that you are suggesting we are all doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    i just don't like how much time we have to be in cleric since 3.0. this is a game design fail. we have different classes for a reason.
    I'd disagree with your middle statement though, DPSing Healers in 2.x was also very big. It's perhaps because you're a WHM and I was a SCH in 2.x that we see it differently though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    there should be a use for all the healing spells and emergency buttons besides the emergencys we have created by ourself because of DPS./
    There is a use for all of your skills (well mostly). I have moved to WHM from SCH in 3.x and play SMN/WHM mostly now. On my WHM i routinely use

    Cure
    Cure II
    Cure III
    Regen
    Medica
    Medica II
    Benediction
    Assize
    Asylum
    Tetragrammaton
    Protect
    Stoneskin
    Stoneskin II
    Swiftcast
    Raise
    Eye for an Eye
    Stone III
    Holy
    Aero III
    Aero II
    Presence of Mind
    Divine Seal
    Shroud of Saints
    Aero (only use this when weaving an oGCD ability such as fluid aura)
    Fluid Aura

    I rarely, if ever, use:
    Stone II
    Blizzard II
    Stone
    Virus

    Quote Originally Posted by Wizarus View Post
    They don't "need" to do anything else if they are fulfilling their obligation as a healer. You can not like it all you want but Yoshi confirmed this already, so it can't be considered carrying if they don't want to DPS as well as heal.

    It's completely unfair to force Healers do manage double the hotbars DPS use to do half of the damage they do. I do it, but no one should "have" to do that outside of a raid enviroment, where Healer DPS is taken into consideration when making the raid.
    No one needs to do anything. I don't need to be respectful when I am playing with an idiot, even though I do try to be. It's completely unfair for me to be playing with people who are not giving it their all when I am. They are reaping the same benefits as me, but putting in half the effort - that isn't fair.

    I mean the obligation of a DPS is that the enemy dies right? So, if I stand still and do nothing, and the other DPS kills it - it is dead. My obligation has been filled. Is that OK? Just trying to see where your stance is on everything and where you draw the lines on how useless someone can be while also fulfilling their role.
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    Last edited by Kaurie; 01-07-2016 at 02:24 AM.