"Battle fever comes over the Heaven's Ward!"

[CyrilLucifer]

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All of those seem like you're stretching justification to me. All of them - especially Nabriales. That portal is supposed to be closing - even waiting 30 seconds would have been to much.

The second one makes no mention of bringing others or the Gnath letting others come through their lands unmolested. You're in the depths of the Hive, I'm pretty sure you can't just come there when the WoL calls you. Furthermore, why would the Gnath allow you to call your friends for aid?

So for the last one? What was the point of everything before that, then, and how did they get they to the ARF? Even assuming our "helpers" aren't bound by the same rules we are in having to Attune to the currents, they had to have gone on our super secret, almost unique little flying machine. So they'd be flying over one by one, or two by two, if they can teleport your chocobo with them (which is another one of those stretching it bits). Way to take your time when your friends are all fighting and, as far as you know, dying on your behalf, WoL. That's almost comical, actually. (Keep in mind, things like Kirin and the Magitek didn't fly until 3.1, so we can't really consider them).

[Morningstar1337]

Way to take your time when your friends are all fighting and, as far as you know, dying on your behalf, WoL. That's almost comical, actually.

It is rather funny, actually. I could imagine the Nabriales fight going like this:

Random Adventurer: Hey, I need help fending off this Treant.
Random Adventurer 2: Sod that. The Anticedent's been kidnapped!
Random Adventurer: The Antecedent's kidnapped? (drops weapons) then what are ye waiting fer!? (both leave the Treant to continue it's rampage)

And as for Ravana...

Random Adventure in the Sea of Clouds: Minfilia, where are you.
Linkshell-using Scion: Hey there's a primal summoning in the Forelands.
Adventurer: We're storm the Forelands!
(an hour later)
Adventurer: (storms the Loth with 6 other people) LEROY JENKINS!

much later, as Thordian becomes pope-primal

Adventurer (Back at the Sea of Clouds): Guys the unthinkable's happened. Thordian's became a primal. We need to get to Azys Lla ASAP
Adventurer 2: But how do we there? There's a barrier around there genius:
(The group notices a herd of Sanuwa)
Adventuer: I got a plan
(Meanwhile, on his way to Ishgard, Briardien sences an essence similar to Hildibrand's above Alabathia's Spine)

[Kaiser-Ace]

Here's my final explanation. "Battle Fever" is a solo limit break and that's all they were using and it charges up by a combination of us feeding them an ass kicking and Thorden feeding them Aether from the Eye as the "Alpha Primal" of the set. BUT when all 13 of them have their full LBs (Thorden's taking the longest) they call forth their ultimate attack by surrounding the enemy and invoking Leroy Jenkins all at the same time thus why there's so much knock backs.

[Berethos]

The second one makes no mention of bringing others or the Gnath letting others come through their lands unmolested. You're in the depths of the Hive, I'm pretty sure you can't just come there when the WoL calls you. Furthermore, why would the Gnath allow you to call your friends for aid?

The Ravana one actually has an out - Ysale mentions (I think as you're headed into the room with Ravana before she tries to fight him) that she can hear running water nearby and that it could serve as a means of a quick escape should things go south (and I believe she also mentions if the need to gather allies is there).

It's the same thing with the Ifrit quest...there's an NPC that mentions that there's a passage out through a watery cave system nearby if you need to escape and/or get allies, and I believe also mentions that they can't all flee as they would be chased and cut down if they tried.

[Kallera]

I was going to include pictures, but that will have to come later. The point i was making was in regards to this trial, though yes I am in the camp that believes that a lot of the actions in Heavensward was done on our own, also because the NPCs in the story do not pay any attention to any assistance we receive, as far as the rest of Eorzea is concerned, the WoL and only the WoL saved them, not that random nin from Zalera that drove the killshot in, the story only acknowledges the accomplishments as your own, unless stated otherwise like in ifrit and such where they say "your companions went here and together, you did this."

In the Reactor battle, unlike other trials depicting a crew of members, we face Thordan and the knights alone. The cutscene before and after includes no other party members but ourselves. This isn't a case of ps3 limitations, this was an intentional decision.

Its why i was curious about the implications of "Battle fever comes over the Heaven's Ward!" And the story conundrum of the personal equivalent of a party member dying, since im not sure it counts as fluctuations in the blessing's strength, or even a function of the blessing at all.