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  1. #341
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    Lilli Karani
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    When I see such numbers, I could cry. Was the third try. And every bomb did explode. Hell for healing too.

    Latest DF A1 normal run.

    Warrior (OT): 943 DPS.

    Bard: 470 DPS.
    Dragoon: 467 DPS.
    Blackmage: 465 DPS.

    Paladin: 412 DPS.

    Machinist: 342 DPS.

    Scholar: 274 DPS.


    So you guys think all is fine and threads like this are mimimi?
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    Last edited by KarstenS; 01-06-2016 at 04:06 AM.

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    Honinbo Dosaku
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    and your whm numbers ?
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  3. #343
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post
    and your whm numbers ?
    Was with AST twink and had all hands to do with healing against the stacking debuffs. After the first wipe because of ignoring mechanics, I've stopped DPSing completely to keep enough MP for that horror run, where the dudes not only didn't know how to play their class. They also handled the fight in the most worse way.

    There are no numbers. What a big surprise for people that don't think about it before writing.
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  4. #344
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post
    and your whm numbers ?
    Why in the heck does the WHM's numbers matter, at all? Forgive me, b ut was this an attempt to call them out for not doing DPS?

    the WHM shouldnt' have to make up the difference of these weak dps. The only way I'd EVER be that low as those DPS is if I died at the start and stayed dead most of the fight.

    My DRG can pull 1.2k easily with jumps in that fight. So even if we assume these people could (ideally) be pulling 1k, how is the WHM supposed to make up for almost 2k difference in DPS?
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  5. #345
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post
    and your whm numbers ?
    I'm less concerned about the healer's dps when theres three other dps roles who aren't performing even the bare minimum (which is going behind auto attacks and alt atbbing), especially if I can do 450ish by just spamming heavy shot. In Wanderer's minuet. Without a party buff.
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    In fact, I asked because I cant see how you beat Faust at all.
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  7. #347
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    Kaurie Lorhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Why in the heck does the WHM's numbers matter, at all? Forgive me, b ut was this an attempt to call them out for not doing DPS?

    the WHM shouldnt' have to make up the difference of these weak dps. The only way I'd EVER be that low as those DPS is if I died at the start and stayed dead most of the fight.

    My DRG can pull 1.2k easily with jumps in that fight. So even if we assume these people could (ideally) be pulling 1k, how is the WHM supposed to make up for almost 2k difference in DPS?
    I mean it's a bit about calling out other peoples numbers when your numbers suck. It's really easy to DPS in Alex 1 Normal for both healers.

    That said, with the DPS numbers shown, it would not be surprising if people were taking a lot of unnecessary damage and the healer not only was focused on heals, but attempting to conserve MP.
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  8. #348
    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    I mean it's a bit about calling out other peoples numbers when your numbers suck. It's really easy to DPS in Alex 1 Normal for both healers.

    That said, with the DPS numbers shown, it would not be surprising if people were taking a lot of unnecessary damage and the healer not only was focused on heals, but attempting to conserve MP.
    There's a reason for a healer not to DPS in a raid, regardless of how 'easy' it is:

    > People are dying due to mechanics, meaning you need more MP for raise.
    > Mechanics that reduce incomming healing, such as the aforementioned bombs hitting down in A1 normal
    > Tanks are full-STR, never pop Mitigation, and tank in DPS stance, requiring heavier heals.

    Now, just from their post, they stated that
    And every bomb did explode.
    Which means they were probably desperately healing to keep people alive.
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  9. #349
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    T'erra Branford
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    Tbh, after running a lot of A1 for my relic, I would say you have a bomb explode on half of the runs right now. That means as tank I had to go back to defiance, and the healers had to stop dpsing. Bad dps making everyones dps worse. In the end it took a lot longer than it should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    There's a reason for a healer not to DPS in a raid, regardless of how 'easy' it is:

    > People are dying due to mechanics, meaning you need more MP for raise.
    > Mechanics that reduce incomming healing, such as the aforementioned bombs hitting down in A1 normal
    > Tanks are full-STR, never pop Mitigation, and tank in DPS stance, requiring heavier heals.

    Now, just from their post, they stated that


    Which means they were probably desperately healing to keep people alive.
    Indeed, that is what I said in my 2nd sentence.
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